Guest Interview - The Amazing KAREL

1 00:00:06,390 --> 00:00:07,170 Hey everybody. 2 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:18,120 How you doing? This is Ray Renati and you have reached Green Room on Air, my little corner of the various Internets as George W used to say. 3 00:00:18,430 --> 00:00:19,800 Hope you're doing great. 4 00:00:20,130 --> 00:00:24,300 It's a rainy day here where I am in Palo Alto, California. 5 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:26,820 Looks like it's the middle of December. 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:36,510 Decembre, depending on which language you speak or pig Latin December day. 7 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:37,830 Yeah. 8 00:00:38,220 --> 00:00:41,940 I used to speak Pig Latin when I was a young boy for fun. 9 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:42,840 I don't anymore. 10 00:00:42,845 --> 00:00:51,810 I'm kind of rusty with my pig Latin, but maybe I'll get on that and improve it and I'll do a whole show in Pig Latin. 11 00:00:51,815 --> 00:00:59,490 Who knows? Who knows? Hey, guess what? Today we have a very, very special guest. 12 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:11,040 He is someone who has actually made history in his life and in his career, and has been a trailblazer for the L G B T Q community in California. 13 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:19,560 He's an all round entertainer who's been in the business for years and is just as comfortable on stage. 14 00:01:20,505 --> 00:01:29,115 Or in front of a camera, or a microphone, or in a recording studio, anywhere where entertainers abide. 15 00:01:30,255 --> 00:01:42,155 He's been entertaining audiences in some of the biggest radio markets in the country, Los Angeles and San Francisco, and on the number one, Radio stations in both markets. 16 00:01:42,825 --> 00:01:46,365 K f I in LA and K G O in San Francisco. 17 00:01:46,515 --> 00:01:50,835 Well, KGO, isn't really number one anymore but they were for years now. 18 00:01:50,835 --> 00:01:56,370 They're sports Betting radio station, and we won't talk about that because it's a travesty and it pisses me off. 19 00:01:56,370 --> 00:02:04,860 Anyway, not only that, but my guess is written for Billboard Magazine and has even been a featured artist in Billboard. 20 00:02:05,850 --> 00:02:06,690 That's right. 21 00:02:07,650 --> 00:02:19,545 He's also been with the Huffington Post since it started and has published two books, not to be, not to not to mention being an an editor for magazines such as The Advocate. 22 00:02:20,565 --> 00:02:34,215 You might have seen him on every major Cable Network as a guest, or even caught him as a pioneer in the recent trend of reality TV for five years on cable and wait for it. 23 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:37,290 He even has an app. 24 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:38,640 That's right. 25 00:02:40,110 --> 00:02:46,496.66666667 He has a very uh, successful podcast that's number 200 in Canada. 26 00:02:47,546.66666667 --> 00:03:02,696.66666667 That's pretty darn to good when you consider the fact that there are five, between three and 5 million podcasts out there, and my guest name is Karel Many of you may know him from the radio. 27 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:18,490 very successful Corll Cast podcast Corll, Charles Corll Blee, but he goes by Corll, just like Prince Goes by Prince Madonna, goes by Madonna, and Elvis goes by Elvis. 28 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:20,530 All righty. 29 00:03:21,230 --> 00:03:30,180 So without any further ado, as they say in show business, Let's get to it. 30 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:41,465 So I was just thinking we can just talk about, your career and and, and things and everything that you're doing now. 31 00:03:42,455 --> 00:03:42,725 Yeah. 32 00:03:42,725 --> 00:03:42,995 Yeah. 33 00:03:42,995 --> 00:03:44,535 I, I'm right with you. 34 00:03:46,215 --> 00:03:51,385 I think that, I think that you and I are I think like a year and a day apart in age. 35 00:03:51,385 --> 00:03:54,715 I think your birthday's November 7th, is that right? It is, yes, it is. 36 00:03:55,285 --> 00:03:57,655 The only reason I know that is because mine's November 8th. 37 00:03:58,115 --> 00:03:58,735 Ah, okay. 38 00:03:58,735 --> 00:03:58,975 Yeah. 39 00:03:59,185 --> 00:04:01,140 And it I think I'm a year older than you. 40 00:04:01,650 --> 00:04:03,120 Yeah, I'm 60. 41 00:04:03,450 --> 00:04:03,570 Yeah. 42 00:04:03,575 --> 00:04:04,350 I'm 61. 43 00:04:04,355 --> 00:04:06,720 So yeah. 44 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:22,780 So I share a lot of your health concerns and one of the things I love when I listen to your show is I feel like I found, I found a comrade in arms, as it were in terms of all that, a 60 year old body, they pretty much behave the same way or misbehave. 45 00:04:23,050 --> 00:04:23,350 Yeah. 46 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:23,770 Yeah. 47 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:28,525 And in terms of diet, like every little thing you eat, Yes. 48 00:04:29,635 --> 00:04:30,385 Or don't eat. 49 00:04:30,595 --> 00:04:31,795 Or don't eat No. 50 00:04:31,795 --> 00:04:32,785 Put down the cookie. 51 00:04:33,025 --> 00:04:33,175 Yeah. 52 00:04:33,175 --> 00:04:36,565 Either goes on the body or it doesn't, depending on what you do with it. 53 00:04:36,835 --> 00:04:37,075 Yeah. 54 00:04:37,075 --> 00:04:37,435 It's funny. 55 00:04:37,435 --> 00:04:43,550 I was Cynthia Sta, who runs Lenora Medical, she once told me that if chocolate cake, I. 56 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:49,150 Appeared like as a lump in your body, like just sort of popped out of your hip right after you ate it. 57 00:04:49,180 --> 00:04:49,810 You wouldn't eat it. 58 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:50,561 You would never eat. 59 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:57,730 But, but, but because cookies, cakes, and pies, accumulate all over gradually then hey, I'll have the, yeah. 60 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,080 So now every time I ate something bad, I'm like, oh God, it's just gonna pop out of my shoulder or something. 61 00:05:02,470 --> 00:05:02,760 Yeah. 62 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:03,370 Yeah. 63 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,000 No kidding. 64 00:05:04,060 --> 00:05:06,580 I mean, for me it's all goes to my midsection. 65 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:12,120 Like I have no fat anywhere else on my body, but But, you've encouraged me a lot to really watch my diet. 66 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,770 I've, I am not a. 67 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:19,890 Complete vegan now, but I, I don't, I, I know meat. 68 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:21,780 I'm a vegan, but God knows if I'm complete. 69 00:05:22,350 --> 00:05:24,510 Well, I don't, I don't eat meat because of you. 70 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:25,440 I don't not eat meat. 71 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:26,520 Well, don't eat meat. 72 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,200 Not because of meat. 73 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,460 Don't eat meat because it's filthy and No, no. 74 00:05:29,465 --> 00:05:33,240 Just because of you of listening to you so much about that. 75 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,910 The data, just every day the data comes out that confirms it and. 76 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,695 more and more in the entertainment industry, I find that, entertainers are heating the call. 77 00:05:42,975 --> 00:05:52,635 In fact, Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, Tony, all of the awards dinners now at the dinners, they're either all plant-based or in fact, the Spirit Awards were just all plant-based. 78 00:05:52,635 --> 00:05:54,705 There was, there were no non-vegan options. 79 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:02,060 And that's because A sustainability, but b a lot of people in entertainment now have made the switch and continue to do so. 80 00:06:02,060 --> 00:06:06,010 The biggest Lizzo yesterday gave a shout out to Fat Vegans cuz she's vegan, but she's heavy. 81 00:06:06,610 --> 00:06:10,725 so she gave a shout out to all the fat vegans and I thought that just sounds like a restaurant chain fat vegan. 82 00:06:11,035 --> 00:06:14,545 But, but so yeah, no, it's, it's, it's time. 83 00:06:14,545 --> 00:06:18,565 The planet wants us to, our bodies want us to, all the research says. 84 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:22,535 Cardiovascular wise and just, all other organs in your body. 85 00:06:22,535 --> 00:06:23,375 Like it better. 86 00:06:23,380 --> 00:06:23,555 Yeah. 87 00:06:23,745 --> 00:06:26,285 Unless you, eat Oreos and stuff all day. 88 00:06:26,535 --> 00:06:31,125 But, just swallowing a plant-based diet, it's the way, and, you gotta have more energy nowadays. 89 00:06:31,130 --> 00:06:34,965 I was just telling a friend, in the entertainment industry, I used to fight being gay. 90 00:06:35,215 --> 00:06:36,595 That was always the big obstacle. 91 00:06:36,595 --> 00:06:37,196 Oh, you're gay, you're gay. 92 00:06:37,405 --> 00:06:38,365 It's like, there was a news flash. 93 00:06:38,365 --> 00:06:38,675 Of course. 94 00:06:38,675 --> 00:06:44,215 I mean, but now I'm white and 60 and so there's, there's all these different. 95 00:06:44,575 --> 00:06:46,015 There's always something to fight. 96 00:06:46,015 --> 00:06:46,105 Yes. 97 00:06:46,395 --> 00:06:53,535 Which means that you always have to have stamina to do it because the only people that survive in this business are the people who continue going. 98 00:06:53,835 --> 00:06:58,545 I mean, many, a fabulous singer, actor, dancer, broadcaster, broadcasting, used to mean spreading seeds. 99 00:06:58,545 --> 00:07:00,950 By the way all, all of these people. 100 00:07:01,750 --> 00:07:05,535 many fabulous people have just stopped because they're just, they're tired of it. 101 00:07:05,565 --> 00:07:08,125 They get tired they get tired of the rejection. 102 00:07:08,125 --> 00:07:13,025 They get tired of having to just cata call what's his name? I'm, I can see his face. 103 00:07:13,025 --> 00:07:14,075 I'm, I know his name. 104 00:07:14,075 --> 00:07:15,185 He's been in a million things. 105 00:07:16,015 --> 00:07:18,035 But he still auditions. 106 00:07:18,055 --> 00:07:22,325 David Arquette still tapes, auditions at home and, and does videotaped. 107 00:07:22,325 --> 00:07:26,620 I mean, he's fucking David Arquette and yet they still require him to audition. 108 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:29,020 It's like in Streisand song, putting it together, everything. 109 00:07:29,025 --> 00:07:31,030 Well, Stephen Sondheim song, putting it together. 110 00:07:31,035 --> 00:07:32,920 Everything you do, you still audition. 111 00:07:33,260 --> 00:07:35,210 And yeah, and it's, it never ends. 112 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:37,340 I mean, she couldn't, that's a, a great. 113 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:38,510 Case right there. 114 00:07:38,690 --> 00:07:44,450 Barbara, her whole career wanted to make her last movie be Gypsy and she wanted to play Mama Rose. 115 00:07:44,940 --> 00:07:48,370 She could not get it funded just could not get it funded. 116 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,320 And so now it'll probably not happen. 117 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,680 She's 81, 82 years old, so she, she'd be Grand Mamamama rose. 118 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,250 So it's probably not gonna happen. 119 00:07:56,050 --> 00:08:07,760 And when you're at Barbara Streisand and you can't get a movie made because you can't get it funded because people don't know, oh, how's it gonna be? And do people wanna see? Because her first movie, funny Girl. 120 00:08:07,765 --> 00:08:08,140 Mm-hmm. 121 00:08:08,540 --> 00:08:12,650 And her, and she wanted it to be the la the, the Last Gypsy cuz they're written by the same people. 122 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:13,040 Yeah. 123 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:14,390 the, the music is the same. 124 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,960 And so she wanted, she thought that would be sort of a great career capping thing. 125 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:19,670 It never, it's probably not gonna happen. 126 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,240 And nowadays she just doesn't, she's 82, she's married 25 years, she's got grandkids. 127 00:08:24,510 --> 00:08:32,745 The hustle in her has sort of, I don't wanna speak for her, but you can tell the hustle in her has sort of, Welled. 128 00:08:33,075 --> 00:08:36,495 She doesn't need it as much as she might have needed it years ago. 129 00:08:36,525 --> 00:08:45,375 I mean, you would think that Barbara Streisand wanting to play Marose in Gypsy is a no-brainer, right? You would think, but not Hollywood. 130 00:08:45,735 --> 00:08:45,885 No. 131 00:08:45,885 --> 00:08:48,465 And remember she's pitching it to people who are 30 years old. 132 00:08:48,645 --> 00:08:48,825 Yeah. 133 00:08:48,825 --> 00:08:52,095 They don't get, don't even know what Gypsy they, no idea what Gypsy is. 134 00:08:52,095 --> 00:08:53,525 They don't know who Mama Rose is. 135 00:08:53,735 --> 00:08:57,795 someone tell me, when is it my turn? They have, they have no idea. 136 00:08:58,785 --> 00:08:59,955 They wouldn't know Natalie Wood. 137 00:08:59,985 --> 00:09:02,535 They, they'd think it was a kind, that's something you make your deck out of. 138 00:09:02,565 --> 00:09:05,105 Oh, it has to be, so they wouldn't know. 139 00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:15,585 So, it's, it is, it was a hard pitch and she, I guess she got tired of pitching it and, she follows the first rule of thumb in Hollywood that I never did, which has never used your own money for a project. 140 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:17,965 But, she, that's why I'm broke. 141 00:09:18,305 --> 00:09:25,605 But, she wasn't, she has, she could easily come up with 40, 50 million but she's not, she's not dumb. 142 00:09:25,605 --> 00:09:26,265 She's not gonna. 143 00:09:26,730 --> 00:09:34,980 No, she and she shouldn't have to, but, so I think you have to have energy and you have to continue to have that drive. 144 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:39,210 And if you're not healthy, the industry is just gonna be too heavy on you. 145 00:09:39,215 --> 00:09:40,560 It's just gonna be too much. 146 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:41,250 You're gonna quit. 147 00:09:41,550 --> 00:09:41,700 Yeah. 148 00:09:41,705 --> 00:09:49,315 I mean, the other problem with her funding it is there would be sort of this knowledge all the time that she funded it, it wasn't approved by the studios and. 149 00:09:49,775 --> 00:09:52,730 it would be this constant, oh, I don't think people today care about that shit. 150 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:55,470 I, I don't think that audiences care about where the money comes from. 151 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:57,480 They have no idea where the money No, I didn't mean the audiences. 152 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,490 I just meant like people in the industry. 153 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:01,700 I don't, well, she doesn't care about Hollywood and never have That's true. 154 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,510 I don't either. 155 00:10:02,590 --> 00:10:04,980 screw these executives is getting it made. 156 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:05,450 That's true. 157 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:09,690 the art of, and from that same song, the Art of Making Art is putting it together. 158 00:10:09,770 --> 00:10:10,060 Yeah. 159 00:10:10,065 --> 00:10:10,260 Yeah. 160 00:10:10,420 --> 00:10:14,525 So however you get a project done, do it. 161 00:10:14,775 --> 00:10:14,965 Yeah. 162 00:10:14,965 --> 00:10:17,925 And if, and then nowadays, if you have to fund it yourself, fund it yourself. 163 00:10:17,925 --> 00:10:18,975 If you believe in it, do it. 164 00:10:19,215 --> 00:10:19,505 Yeah. 165 00:10:19,510 --> 00:10:19,695 Yeah. 166 00:10:19,755 --> 00:10:20,985 She's just old school. 167 00:10:21,285 --> 00:10:26,705 And when you've been famous for, let's she 82, so she's been famous for 61 years. 168 00:10:27,505 --> 00:10:31,525 When you've been famous for 61 years, you kind of don't wanna have to do it yourself. 169 00:10:32,265 --> 00:10:33,435 Right, right. 170 00:10:34,005 --> 00:10:35,655 I, I can totally relate to you. 171 00:10:35,655 --> 00:10:43,695 When, when, when you've said that now being a 60 year old white man in entertainment is the thing you're fighting against because it's exactly the same for me. 172 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:49,635 I mean, as soon as I'm not a 24 year old, general non or non-binary trans gay. 173 00:10:50,235 --> 00:10:50,445 Right. 174 00:10:51,005 --> 00:10:51,125 Yeah. 175 00:10:51,515 --> 00:10:52,175 One of those things. 176 00:10:52,175 --> 00:10:53,975 And those are the things that are favored right now. 177 00:10:53,975 --> 00:10:55,315 And they're checking boxes. 178 00:10:55,495 --> 00:10:55,855 Yeah. 179 00:10:55,855 --> 00:11:00,275 they're like, oh, well we want, because they, their, one thing that they do is gonna be their whole diversity. 180 00:11:00,425 --> 00:11:09,185 I was told by the MO council once the motorcycle council I said, they would put me on all these bikes and everything and I would say, you need to do gay outreach, it, gay pride. 181 00:11:09,185 --> 00:11:11,675 And they, and they looked at me and said, you are our gay outreach. 182 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:12,660 Oh, geez. 183 00:11:13,005 --> 00:11:17,120 And, and that, and so I checked that box for them. 184 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,070 Oh, yeah. 185 00:11:18,070 --> 00:11:20,730 Look, we're we in the motorcycle industry? We're not homophobic. 186 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:21,960 We, we service carel. 187 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,940 It's like, yeah, but nobody else. 188 00:11:24,430 --> 00:11:24,770 Yeah. 189 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:32,880 and so nowadays, well company, whether it's an entertainment company or just a regular company, they're looking at a hire to check like a whole bunch of boxes. 190 00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:34,260 Are you female? Yes. 191 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,750 Are you part Latino and part black? Yes. 192 00:11:36,755 --> 00:11:37,140 Yes. 193 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,480 Are you, gendered non bond? Yes. 194 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:39,790 Yeah. 195 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:43,310 And so if one person checks all five boxes, that person gets the gig? Yes. 196 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:46,680 And, and in San Francisco it's really blatant. 197 00:11:46,680 --> 00:12:01,220 I mean, like, they actually give you when you go to audition before the audition, they actually give you questionnaires that you have to fill out with all of those things in it that you just mentioned, which is amazing because for over a decade I was the only gay host working in San Francisco on K G O. 198 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:05,300 There were no other gay hosts working on radio period talk or fm. 199 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:10,160 And then the two gay guys got an an FM morning show and I'm forget Fernando and Greg, I think were their names. 200 00:12:10,390 --> 00:12:14,170 And they may still have a morning show, but then they were the other two gay people. 201 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:18,010 They were on fm, I was on am and in a city known for its queerness. 202 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:19,970 There were three gay people on the radio. 203 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:20,630 Amazing. 204 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,910 And that yeah, that, that's pretty freaking amazing. 205 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:24,210 Yeah. 206 00:12:24,210 --> 00:12:27,540 So, and now if they're gone, I don't know of any that are on the radio there. 207 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:34,890 So, so for people who don't know, I mean, you have had an illustrious radio career, right? I mean, you started there in LA with, well Southern, call it historic and Yeah. 208 00:12:34,895 --> 00:12:37,250 They, they call some, call it historic, some call it iconic. 209 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:38,700 It just makes me sound old. 210 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,950 But yeah, I always say I was gay and radio before it was fashionable. 211 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Meaning it was a fight. 212 00:12:44,535 --> 00:12:45,255 There were nothing. 213 00:12:45,285 --> 00:12:47,895 There was nothing that sounded like us at all. 214 00:12:48,085 --> 00:12:50,605 No one that looked like us, no one that talked like us. 215 00:12:51,035 --> 00:12:56,505 And we got hired by the most conservative radio station in Los Angeles thanks to David Hall. 216 00:12:56,755 --> 00:12:57,830 And we followed Dr. 217 00:12:57,830 --> 00:12:58,160 Laura. 218 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,540 So it went rush, limba, Dr. 219 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:01,950 Laura and them and them being us. 220 00:13:02,380 --> 00:13:07,240 And we were a couple, we were the first gay couple in radio to ever have a drive time radio show. 221 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,870 It had never been done in any market in the United States, period. 222 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:11,620 It just hadn't happened. 223 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:13,960 And, and in the world at that point, it hadn't happened. 224 00:13:14,450 --> 00:13:18,920 And so we were at K F I and then Andrew died very suddenly in 2001. 225 00:13:18,950 --> 00:13:27,380 And I stayed at K F I for a couple years and then went on to K G O, where again, I was the only gay talk show host working in the San Francisco Bay area. 226 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:29,940 Heard up and down the west coast on the number one a b C station. 227 00:13:30,885 --> 00:13:36,085 And, and was there for a decade or more and, breaking the ground there. 228 00:13:36,265 --> 00:13:41,605 That's why today when I see all these broadcasters that are queer or this or that, I just thought, all you need to say to me is thank you. 229 00:13:42,035 --> 00:13:44,555 Because I remember being humiliated by bosses. 230 00:13:44,855 --> 00:13:48,225 I remember having people tell me, we'd love to program your show, but you're just too gay. 231 00:13:48,945 --> 00:13:50,925 And, and having no repercussions for that. 232 00:13:50,925 --> 00:13:52,755 Just being able to say that to somebody. 233 00:13:52,925 --> 00:13:53,215 Yeah. 234 00:13:53,515 --> 00:13:59,305 I I w I came from before the Me Too, Mickey Loff at K G O was the biggest homophobia in the world, and he. 235 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:01,465 Excused it by saying his best friend is gay. 236 00:14:01,645 --> 00:14:01,795 Yeah. 237 00:14:01,795 --> 00:14:09,235 His best friend up on child charges for molesting a 16 year old on a yacht, a sweater wearing queer Andrew and I used to call him. 238 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,585 Mm-hmm. 239 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,630 Those very per sticky sort of sweater wrapped around the neck. 240 00:14:13,630 --> 00:14:14,720 Very whatever. 241 00:14:14,795 --> 00:14:14,890 Yeah. 242 00:14:14,990 --> 00:14:22,160 But no, Mickey made rules for me in radio that today I could sue him for, he can't be on the radio before seven o'clock. 243 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,600 Why? Because he sounds too gay. 244 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,460 So I could never do middays. 245 00:14:25,460 --> 00:14:27,500 I could never fill in for Ron Owens or whatever. 246 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:38,290 Not I was filling in for everybody, but I couldn't fill in for anybody before seven in the evening because Mickey luck off at K G O Radio, who's a bastard said no he can't. 247 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:49,150 One time there was a Christmas party and totally off the record, Christmas party people are showing their butt for this camera that got found on a table or their, this girl showed her boobs. 248 00:14:49,390 --> 00:14:50,800 So I flash it my butt. 249 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:51,340 Dr. 250 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:52,150 Bill Wattenberg. 251 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:56,200 Another homophobia actually physically was allowed to physically attack me. 252 00:14:56,290 --> 00:14:56,890 I remember that. 253 00:14:56,890 --> 00:14:56,950 Yeah. 254 00:14:56,950 --> 00:15:02,600 After the K G O all stars, he wasn't fired for it, Because his best friend was Mickey Loff. 255 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:03,860 Well, he didn't like that. 256 00:15:03,860 --> 00:15:05,510 I showed my butt at the Christmas party. 257 00:15:05,690 --> 00:15:07,550 I got flown up on Christmas Eve. 258 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:08,870 I got reprimanded. 259 00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:12,170 No one else that did stuff for that camera got reprimanded. 260 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:12,920 Just me. 261 00:15:13,420 --> 00:15:33,550 And so for d for Forever, at K G O radio, I had to jump higher, run faster, get better ratings, and when I had a hot mic incident, it gave them the excuse to get rid of me Mickey, because he, he tried and tried, but I got protected by the program director, Jack Swanson, who is a great guy and Trish Robbins, the assistant pd, who's a wonderful woman. 262 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:33,790 Mm-hmm. 263 00:15:34,030 --> 00:15:34,840 They would protect me. 264 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,340 They would say, no, you're not firing him. 265 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:37,960 He is got the numbers, he's got the audience. 266 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:42,550 He's the one people ask about, when, when we're out at events, you're not firing. 267 00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:46,280 But finally there was a reason that they couldn't say no to. 268 00:15:47,065 --> 00:15:48,715 The silly Joe find the plumber incident. 269 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:48,775 Yeah. 270 00:15:48,775 --> 00:15:49,765 Fuck Joe, the plumber. 271 00:15:49,765 --> 00:15:50,065 I hope. 272 00:15:50,065 --> 00:15:50,515 Fucking Joe. 273 00:15:50,515 --> 00:15:51,775 The plumber drops fucking dead. 274 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:58,705 Said to John McCain during a break after writing an editorial for the Huffington Post about how we need to end hyperbole. 275 00:15:58,855 --> 00:16:01,255 Let's stop all this lipstick on a pig bullshit. 276 00:16:01,405 --> 00:16:02,365 Let's stop all this. 277 00:16:02,365 --> 00:16:10,445 Joe, the plumber who's not even a plumber, we're about to have an election that the first African American in the world, in the United States may become president. 278 00:16:10,595 --> 00:16:12,215 Let's talk about real issues. 279 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:15,215 I had just finished writing that at 8 45. 280 00:16:15,220 --> 00:16:15,395 Yeah. 281 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:22,655 And at 9 0 5, John McCain says, during a break to me, I'm gonna take Joe the plumber all the way to Washington and I'm pouring tea remotely. 282 00:16:22,985 --> 00:16:28,716 And they had put a brand new engineer on my show that night who left to go pee during the break and left the pot open. 283 00:16:28,985 --> 00:16:29,275 Yeah. 284 00:16:29,415 --> 00:16:31,605 And, and he was like 19 years old. 285 00:16:31,610 --> 00:16:38,680 Why are you putting a 19 year old engineer on a remote show? it's beyond me, so they fired me. 286 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:47,710 But the public outcry was so great that after a year and a half they rehired me Well, because they don't pay engineers anything at radio stations, so No, they, they can't find people who know what they're doing. 287 00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:48,020 Right. 288 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:49,810 Well, a lot of engineers know what they're doing. 289 00:16:49,810 --> 00:16:50,950 They just take the low pay. 290 00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:51,790 Yeah. 291 00:16:51,795 --> 00:16:52,270 Oh, I know. 292 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:56,440 But like, it's, it's a, it is such a cutthroat industry. 293 00:16:56,445 --> 00:16:57,250 I, oh, yeah. 294 00:16:57,340 --> 00:17:01,810 I'm just blown away by radio and how one day you can be on top and the next day you're gone. 295 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:03,070 And I can, well, that's everything. 296 00:17:03,070 --> 00:17:03,570 That's all. 297 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:08,315 That's, That's, I know Tucker Carlson had no clue that his last show was that last Friday. 298 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:09,175 That's true. 299 00:17:09,215 --> 00:17:11,845 I mean, you, you just, you don't, you don't ever know. 300 00:17:11,875 --> 00:17:12,785 You never know. 301 00:17:12,785 --> 00:17:15,485 That's why David Hall used to tell us every show is for all the marbles. 302 00:17:15,485 --> 00:17:16,865 Never escape through a show. 303 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:17,285 Yeah. 304 00:17:17,285 --> 00:17:19,175 Because you just never know if it's gonna be your last. 305 00:17:19,265 --> 00:17:19,555 Yeah. 306 00:17:20,580 --> 00:17:25,045 Well, I mean, I loved it when K G O put you on and it, it was my favorite show. 307 00:17:25,050 --> 00:17:29,645 I, I also listened to Bill Wattenberg only because I found it like strangely humorous. 308 00:17:30,035 --> 00:17:31,685 Yeah, well, if you knew him, you wouldn't have liked it. 309 00:17:32,045 --> 00:17:32,975 No, I know. 310 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:33,385 Yeah. 311 00:17:34,235 --> 00:17:38,241 And I, I loved it when they had you and Maureen Langen and I love Maureen. 312 00:17:38,241 --> 00:17:39,621 Just had lunch with her last weekend. 313 00:17:39,621 --> 00:17:41,661 She was in Vegas doing the Laugh Factory. 314 00:17:41,971 --> 00:17:42,871 She's on wba. 315 00:17:42,871 --> 00:17:46,031 I now in New York, publicly funded, but and she's doing a. 316 00:17:46,186 --> 00:17:49,396 Really big talent show this summer that I can't really talk about. 317 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:53,236 Well, well she posted, she, she teased America's Got Talent, but she hasn't. 318 00:17:53,566 --> 00:17:54,796 I know all the details. 319 00:17:54,796 --> 00:17:55,696 I can't share them. 320 00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:55,946 Okay. 321 00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:59,246 But just be sure you watch America's Got Talent this summer. 322 00:17:59,806 --> 00:18:00,636 I, I will. 323 00:18:00,696 --> 00:18:01,416 Oh, wonderful. 324 00:18:01,476 --> 00:18:01,836 Great. 325 00:18:02,256 --> 00:18:10,806 And what about you? Do you have anything coming up that you're doing other than you have this huge, you have your podcast and video show and everything that you do that's Yes. 326 00:18:10,806 --> 00:18:14,017 Which is, yeah, the podcast is still in the top 200 in Canada, United States. 327 00:18:14,286 --> 00:18:14,826 I saw that today. 328 00:18:14,826 --> 00:18:16,056 You're 2 0 4 today. 329 00:18:16,086 --> 00:18:16,747 I, yeah, I know. 330 00:18:17,046 --> 00:18:20,856 It's, it's, it's something you think I could turn that into money somehow? Yeah. 331 00:18:20,956 --> 00:18:21,596 But no. 332 00:18:21,596 --> 00:18:24,511 So I'm very blessed that I'm still ranking. 333 00:18:24,571 --> 00:18:26,671 There are 2 million podcasts available. 334 00:18:27,126 --> 00:18:30,256 And out of 2 million I consistently rank in the top 200. 335 00:18:30,256 --> 00:18:32,646 That's, people would say, well, that's not very high. 336 00:18:32,856 --> 00:18:33,876 That's fine with me. 337 00:18:33,936 --> 00:18:35,526 That that's out of 2 million. 338 00:18:35,796 --> 00:18:37,986 That's in the top 0.1%. 339 00:18:38,046 --> 00:18:41,076 That's remarkable because, so that, yeah, I'll take that. 340 00:18:41,096 --> 00:18:41,736 Heck yeah. 341 00:18:41,741 --> 00:18:45,216 And the fact that I just do this crazy, half hour where I just talk about whatever. 342 00:18:45,511 --> 00:18:47,581 it is, I'm very fortunate about that. 343 00:18:47,861 --> 00:18:50,021 I'm going back and doing recording. 344 00:18:50,021 --> 00:18:53,741 We're doing a Gospel House remix of a song I really believe in called Stronger Together. 345 00:18:53,891 --> 00:18:53,981 Mm-hmm. 346 00:18:54,171 --> 00:19:07,441 May 22nd, I'm going to LA and we're gonna have a choir and Thea's coming back in and my friend the From Snap and Morgan Mallory, who was on America's Got Talent and my friend Daniel Charleston, who's in Pacific Opera Project, and we're gonna have a choir of 10 voices. 347 00:19:07,781 --> 00:19:09,521 We're gonna record it as a gospel house mix. 348 00:19:09,521 --> 00:19:13,031 We're gonna release married men disco version before that, then follow up with. 349 00:19:13,306 --> 00:19:14,296 Stronger together. 350 00:19:14,546 --> 00:19:17,966 And then follow that with another single, so we'll get the single started doing again. 351 00:19:18,356 --> 00:19:24,546 I am pitching Weathering the Future which is a show where I go to the 10 places in the United States that are gonna weather the future the best. 352 00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:28,871 However, again, networks don't work like networks used to. 353 00:19:29,171 --> 00:19:33,521 It used to be you pitched an idea to a network, they gave you a series order and a budget. 354 00:19:33,521 --> 00:19:34,361 You went and did it. 355 00:19:34,421 --> 00:19:35,021 That was that. 356 00:19:35,021 --> 00:19:35,081 Yeah. 357 00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:40,181 Nowadays, networks look for production partners where you bring them a completely finished show. 358 00:19:40,996 --> 00:19:42,616 And then they slap their name on it. 359 00:19:42,756 --> 00:19:43,546 And then twice original. 360 00:19:44,076 --> 00:19:44,346 Yeah. 361 00:19:44,346 --> 00:19:44,676 Right. 362 00:19:44,676 --> 00:19:46,836 And they pay X amount per episode. 363 00:19:46,836 --> 00:19:49,656 Or they just pay you, like Netflix just plays by the stream. 364 00:19:50,106 --> 00:19:50,196 Mm-hmm. 365 00:19:50,536 --> 00:19:53,386 And so it's a very different world right now. 366 00:19:53,391 --> 00:19:54,886 Television is shrinking. 367 00:19:54,886 --> 00:20:02,626 Film is shrinking the money for television and film, even though you hear about these billion dollar deals and Netflix spending a billion dollars on content. 368 00:20:02,926 --> 00:20:03,946 Yeah, they're buying it. 369 00:20:03,976 --> 00:20:04,266 Yeah. 370 00:20:04,426 --> 00:20:05,566 They're not producing it. 371 00:20:05,626 --> 00:20:06,406 They're buying it. 372 00:20:06,961 --> 00:20:16,851 What was this? To get content made nowadays you almost have to find a production company that funds it and then brings it to a network and gets their money back that way. 373 00:20:17,211 --> 00:20:17,331 Yeah. 374 00:20:17,331 --> 00:20:18,591 It used to be totally different. 375 00:20:18,771 --> 00:20:23,151 You used to be able to go to the network with or to the studio with a film idea. 376 00:20:23,586 --> 00:20:25,386 And then they'd say, okay, we like this film. 377 00:20:25,386 --> 00:20:27,726 We're gonna finance this film nowadays. 378 00:20:27,786 --> 00:20:28,266 No. 379 00:20:28,456 --> 00:20:35,746 To make a film, to make a movie, even an independent film, you pretty much have to go secure the funding and then the studio agrees to do the movie. 380 00:20:35,926 --> 00:20:38,986 They help you with the funding and or pay some of it back. 381 00:20:39,316 --> 00:20:43,876 And then you collect on the backend if there is a backend and pay your investors back. 382 00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:44,506 I see. 383 00:20:44,506 --> 00:20:46,516 So that way there's no downside for them. 384 00:20:47,131 --> 00:20:47,521 Right. 385 00:20:47,521 --> 00:20:54,511 They, they, they have totally gotten out of the pre, legacy studios, A B abc, cbs, B S M T V Studios, all of them. 386 00:20:54,871 --> 00:21:00,451 They'll make deals with like Chandra Rhimes and stuff where, where they will give them production money up front. 387 00:21:00,811 --> 00:21:06,631 But these are people that have enormous shows already that are, Chandra Rhimes is a freaking industry. 388 00:21:06,931 --> 00:21:07,351 Mm-hmm. 389 00:21:07,401 --> 00:21:10,811 Bradley Fk and Ryan Murphy, Yeah. 390 00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:14,671 They're getting production money up front when they don't need it, and that's just the away with everything. 391 00:21:14,671 --> 00:21:21,751 Rich people don't pay for shit, and people who have the money to produce things are actually given money by the studios. 392 00:21:21,991 --> 00:21:26,281 The people who don't have money to produce things are not given the money by the studios. 393 00:21:26,706 --> 00:21:29,076 So it's, it's got completely upside down. 394 00:21:29,286 --> 00:21:34,266 I know a lot of industry executives who are getting out of the industry because they just don't like the way that it's going. 395 00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:35,046 Yeah. 396 00:21:35,376 --> 00:21:41,406 I went on a tour at Paramount and I was surprised about how little work people there had to do. 397 00:21:41,586 --> 00:21:42,726 I'm like, yes, are is. 398 00:21:42,726 --> 00:21:45,356 Are they gonna shoot anything? I mean, nothing was going on. 399 00:21:45,816 --> 00:21:49,416 Absolutely not saying, well, that's because half of Paramount lot now is rented out. 400 00:21:50,281 --> 00:21:51,251 They're not all paramount. 401 00:21:51,251 --> 00:21:55,681 when I, when I filmed at Paramount and I also did a show there, a concert with Grace Jones. 402 00:21:55,681 --> 00:22:01,231 It was so much fun in the pool area where they film all the water things, where they filmed the Star Trek and the whales and all of that. 403 00:22:01,501 --> 00:22:04,351 There's a giant pool area there at Paramount where they do a lot of water scenes. 404 00:22:04,351 --> 00:22:04,441 Yes. 405 00:22:04,921 --> 00:22:09,871 And it's got an enormous green screen behind it that's like 300 feet wide and a concert. 406 00:22:10,081 --> 00:22:11,731 I did a concert right in the middle of that pool. 407 00:22:11,731 --> 00:22:12,061 Oh neat. 408 00:22:12,221 --> 00:22:15,431 With Grace Jones and it was a wonderful thing called Tribal Track. 409 00:22:16,006 --> 00:22:24,436 We had a grand and glorious time, but I used to also film a couple TV shows there, ultimate Revenge and Soap Dish and some other, some other shows that I was on. 410 00:22:24,736 --> 00:22:29,251 And so I'd go to the Paramount lot and it was busy as hell and the commissary was always full. 411 00:22:29,251 --> 00:22:31,866 And nowadays you go, they're, they're freaking ghost towns. 412 00:22:32,016 --> 00:22:32,786 It's a ghost town. 413 00:22:33,136 --> 00:22:33,466 Yeah. 414 00:22:33,466 --> 00:22:41,756 They're ghost towns because half the sound stages aren't occupied because they charge so much money to, to use them that independent productions aren't using them. 415 00:22:41,906 --> 00:22:44,876 And major studios, major productions have moved. 416 00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:46,631 Vancouver, Georgia. 417 00:22:46,721 --> 00:22:46,961 Yes. 418 00:22:46,961 --> 00:22:48,041 Various other places. 419 00:22:48,041 --> 00:22:51,741 So huge productions aren't even in LA anymore. 420 00:22:52,381 --> 00:22:53,801 And they're, they're all over. 421 00:22:53,861 --> 00:22:54,101 Yeah. 422 00:22:54,106 --> 00:23:00,941 I mean, even like 25, 30 years ago, when I first started doing this myself, there was quite a bit that shot in San Francisco I used to go to. 423 00:23:01,061 --> 00:23:01,451 Oh yeah. 424 00:23:01,511 --> 00:23:03,672 I used to go to SAG auditions all the time. 425 00:23:04,586 --> 00:23:08,246 Then there were, then they had the strike, and then since then, absolutely nothing. 426 00:23:08,276 --> 00:23:11,396 It's all in Canada still in la and Georgia. 427 00:23:11,396 --> 00:23:13,526 Georgia, Georgia is a big thing cuz it's cheap. 428 00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:14,036 Oh yeah. 429 00:23:14,366 --> 00:23:14,666 Yeah. 430 00:23:14,876 --> 00:23:17,126 And the Walking Dead helps, helps that a lot too. 431 00:23:17,126 --> 00:23:17,186 Yeah. 432 00:23:17,246 --> 00:23:21,206 Well, I, I consider people in Georgia the walking dead, so whatever. 433 00:23:21,936 --> 00:23:23,546 Yeah, no kidding God. 434 00:23:24,666 --> 00:23:25,186 Yeah, I'm ready. 435 00:23:25,191 --> 00:23:27,486 I'm ready for the red, I'm ready for the red states to go by. 436 00:23:27,516 --> 00:23:28,746 Just leave, get out. 437 00:23:29,196 --> 00:23:32,046 So you were in a show with Grace Jones? Oh, absolutely. 438 00:23:32,796 --> 00:23:34,566 I've toured with a lot of people. 439 00:23:34,571 --> 00:23:36,006 Grace Jones, Bronski Beat. 440 00:23:36,006 --> 00:23:39,966 I've toured with Thea, my friend from Snap, who's celebrating 30 years of rhythm with a dancer. 441 00:23:40,236 --> 00:23:40,476 Yeah. 442 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:45,961 I've, I've opened for just really big dance or regular, artist. 443 00:23:45,976 --> 00:23:46,846 But yeah, grace was fun. 444 00:23:46,846 --> 00:23:48,166 We got very high backstage. 445 00:23:48,626 --> 00:23:50,996 I met, I first met Grace, where is my, oh, here. 446 00:23:50,996 --> 00:23:51,716 Hold on, hold on. 447 00:23:51,746 --> 00:23:51,776 Okay. 448 00:23:52,776 --> 00:23:52,986 Hello. 449 00:23:55,626 --> 00:23:59,026 Let's see, which camera are we on here? Your main one, I think. 450 00:23:59,026 --> 00:23:59,346 There we go. 451 00:23:59,346 --> 00:24:02,126 Yeah, let's see. 452 00:24:02,206 --> 00:24:03,556 I, oh, over here. 453 00:24:03,886 --> 00:24:04,516 Oh, that's better. 454 00:24:04,586 --> 00:24:06,016 Oh, oh. 455 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,736 I've never seen a picture of you when you were young. 456 00:24:09,796 --> 00:24:10,906 That's at the Grammys. 457 00:24:10,906 --> 00:24:12,196 That is a member's only jacket. 458 00:24:12,386 --> 00:24:15,116 That's at the Grammys in 1982, I believe. 459 00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:15,466 Oh, neat. 460 00:24:15,616 --> 00:24:19,086 When I first met Grace we were there together at the after party. 461 00:24:19,476 --> 00:24:21,606 I walked up and said, I love your ec Miyaki dress. 462 00:24:22,026 --> 00:24:24,696 And the dress she had worn on stage with made Outta Bamboo. 463 00:24:25,036 --> 00:24:27,166 And I said, I believe it's in the Museum of Modern Art. 464 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:29,656 Right? And she's like, you are the only one who knew. 465 00:24:29,656 --> 00:24:30,756 And I'm like, no, no. 466 00:24:31,306 --> 00:24:34,336 I established and the office she had on with the big ponytail. 467 00:24:34,896 --> 00:24:35,916 Was Miyaki. 468 00:24:35,946 --> 00:24:37,326 And so we hung out. 469 00:24:37,696 --> 00:24:42,226 We met then I interviewed her for the r and b report in the mid eighties to early nineties. 470 00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:46,686 And her limo hadn't shown up at where were we in la We're one of those madons or something. 471 00:24:47,166 --> 00:24:54,961 And so my friend Ken had driven me, he had a brand new Jeep Wrangler without the top on, and she said, I need to get to the recording session for love. 472 00:24:54,961 --> 00:24:55,861 On top of love. 473 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:57,391 Dolf long's already there. 474 00:24:57,391 --> 00:25:02,491 Can you drive me? And I said, well, we're, we're in a Jeep with no top on. 475 00:25:02,971 --> 00:25:04,891 Ah, and she's like, that's fine. 476 00:25:05,161 --> 00:25:11,551 So she had a big, huge ponytail dress on and everything we get in the Jeep, we're driving down Santa Monica Boulevard, she's in the back. 477 00:25:11,851 --> 00:25:16,271 She suddenly stands up and holds onto the roll bar because she was enjoying herself. 478 00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:17,966 And we're on our way to see her. 479 00:25:17,966 --> 00:25:20,006 Brits a photography icon of mine. 480 00:25:20,376 --> 00:25:24,426 And suddenly a guy pulls up next to us on Santa Monica Boulevard as his want to happen. 481 00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:26,676 These two Latino queens look over in guns. 482 00:25:27,006 --> 00:25:29,766 Look, that gra, that drag queen looks just like Grace Jones. 483 00:25:30,161 --> 00:25:35,471 And she turns and looks down and she grabs her ponytail and she goes, I am not her drag queen. 484 00:25:35,471 --> 00:25:36,701 I am Grace Jones. 485 00:25:37,751 --> 00:25:40,961 And they like freaked out, like, oh my God, it really is Grace Jones. 486 00:25:41,521 --> 00:25:48,631 So we had that experience together and then I, I, few years later, I opened for her and she remembered You gave me a ride and a Jeep. 487 00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:49,411 Yes, I did. 488 00:25:49,811 --> 00:25:52,531 So, we had a grand time at that, the show as well. 489 00:25:52,631 --> 00:25:53,981 She really sounded like that. 490 00:25:54,391 --> 00:25:54,871 In real life. 491 00:25:54,876 --> 00:25:56,281 That's how she, that's how she sounds. 492 00:25:56,691 --> 00:25:58,671 And now she's doing West Hollywood Pride. 493 00:25:58,671 --> 00:26:01,201 I believe this year it's either WeHo or la. 494 00:26:01,201 --> 00:26:02,101 They got a bunch of people. 495 00:26:02,101 --> 00:26:03,271 Mariah Carey is doing it. 496 00:26:03,621 --> 00:26:07,401 So yeah, grace is doing that and she's doing a lot of pride festivals this year. 497 00:26:07,681 --> 00:26:11,491 Mainly cuz I think she's, I don't wanna say bored, but she loves to entertain. 498 00:26:11,781 --> 00:26:19,461 And and she, and the thing about Grace is, grace is this wonderful merging of modern art and music. 499 00:26:19,691 --> 00:26:20,311 Mm-hmm. 500 00:26:20,311 --> 00:26:22,581 everything that she does is also art. 501 00:26:22,941 --> 00:26:23,271 Yes. 502 00:26:23,451 --> 00:26:26,181 Her, her clothing, her bloody, her presence. 503 00:26:26,186 --> 00:26:26,961 Well, well, yeah. 504 00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,761 She was, Painted by Keith Herring to go to a party. 505 00:26:30,121 --> 00:26:30,181 Yeah. 506 00:26:30,231 --> 00:26:33,741 And she showed up with Dolf Lure and his twin brother, arm and arm. 507 00:26:33,741 --> 00:26:35,811 And then they, she walked into the consulate. 508 00:26:35,811 --> 00:26:36,801 This is for the consulate. 509 00:26:37,101 --> 00:26:39,321 She walks into the consulate and she peels off her coat. 510 00:26:39,321 --> 00:26:42,111 And she's naked, except for her body is all painted by Keith Herring. 511 00:26:42,671 --> 00:26:44,291 So, you know, I think I remember that picture. 512 00:26:44,291 --> 00:26:45,371 There was a photo of that. 513 00:26:45,371 --> 00:26:46,121 Absolutely. 514 00:26:46,126 --> 00:26:46,541 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 515 00:26:46,721 --> 00:26:56,501 So, yeah, so she merges, modern art with music and I don't think there are many artists nowadays that really pay as much attention to art and artists. 516 00:26:57,121 --> 00:26:59,741 That aren't musical art and artist as she does. 517 00:26:59,741 --> 00:27:01,781 Yeah, Basquiat did things for her. 518 00:27:01,991 --> 00:27:11,931 I mean, she's had so many famous painters and famous sculptors do things for her, make dresses for her, make outfits for her famous, Cottiers. 519 00:27:12,521 --> 00:27:14,531 Who just want to design one-offs for her. 520 00:27:14,531 --> 00:27:18,521 So I really think that, there's, there's just not another entity like her. 521 00:27:18,701 --> 00:27:31,062 Well, she's so striking and so charismatic, and every, every time you see something, a picture of her or a performance, you just, it, it, you have this well up of like, feeling like sometimes it's uncomfortable, I have to say. 522 00:27:31,796 --> 00:27:32,486 Sometimes you're tired. 523 00:27:32,486 --> 00:27:35,306 I remember waiting to see her at Lion Country Safari in Southern California. 524 00:27:35,306 --> 00:27:43,436 She was supposed to come on at midnight at 3:00 AM a forklift comes on with a leopard inside a cage, and on top of the cage was her. 525 00:27:43,796 --> 00:27:47,876 So, I'm sorry, the leopard was on top of the cage and she was in the cage. 526 00:27:47,876 --> 00:27:48,717 I think I remember seeing that. 527 00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:50,066 Like a leopard. 528 00:27:50,066 --> 00:27:50,876 Oh, we were there. 529 00:27:51,156 --> 00:27:56,941 And so this forklift drops her and she's doing Demolition man, Yama walking nightmare. 530 00:27:58,861 --> 00:27:59,531 And here's this. 531 00:27:59,711 --> 00:28:02,016 there's this leopard and we're just like, holy Christ. 532 00:28:02,046 --> 00:28:02,106 Yeah. 533 00:28:02,416 --> 00:28:05,236 But like Madonna, she's never really started a show on time. 534 00:28:05,806 --> 00:28:06,256 Oh, yeah. 535 00:28:06,256 --> 00:28:09,946 Well, which I find horribly disrespectful, by the way, the same with Madonna. 536 00:28:09,951 --> 00:28:12,796 When Madonna came to Vegas three years ago, the show was at eight. 537 00:28:12,801 --> 00:28:14,416 She saed on stage at 10 30. 538 00:28:14,416 --> 00:28:15,376 Fuck you Madonna. 539 00:28:15,686 --> 00:28:17,446 I would've left so eighties also would've left. 540 00:28:18,046 --> 00:28:18,966 I would've left. 541 00:28:19,366 --> 00:28:20,806 And they took all their cell phones. 542 00:28:20,806 --> 00:28:23,446 So these people have been sitting there for two and a half hours without their No. 543 00:28:23,596 --> 00:28:28,246 That is so disrespectful of an artist to disrespect the audience's time. 544 00:28:28,831 --> 00:28:29,441 Oh, I agree. 545 00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:33,391 it's, it's just so dis if I say the show starts at date, it starts at date. 546 00:28:33,391 --> 00:28:34,861 If you ain't in your seat, too bad, baby. 547 00:28:34,861 --> 00:28:39,211 It's, it's ha because I come from a world where you can't begin at four 10 or four 15. 548 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:45,061 You ha you're, the mic goes live at 4 0 5 and you're either there behind it or you're not. 549 00:28:45,066 --> 00:28:45,281 Yeah. 550 00:28:45,571 --> 00:28:46,561 There's a radio show. 551 00:28:46,561 --> 00:28:47,102 You better be there. 552 00:28:47,111 --> 00:28:47,401 Yeah. 553 00:28:47,731 --> 00:28:47,941 Yeah. 554 00:28:47,941 --> 00:28:49,051 Cause God knows Andrew. 555 00:28:49,051 --> 00:28:49,471 And are you. 556 00:28:49,846 --> 00:28:56,666 God Novera and I have sped down Wilshire Boulevard breaking more than a few laws more than a few times trying to get there from Long Beach on time. 557 00:28:56,696 --> 00:28:58,526 David's like, I'm not post running the beginning of the show. 558 00:28:58,526 --> 00:28:59,696 You better get your ass here. 559 00:28:59,876 --> 00:29:03,296 4 0 5, our interim music is playing and we're running up from the parking lot. 560 00:29:03,806 --> 00:29:04,496 That's so cool. 561 00:29:04,526 --> 00:29:13,411 I just, just telling my wife the other day, I said, in the seventies when we used to go to concerts, cause I just went and saw Willie Nelson the other night and he actually started a little late, which surprised me, but, well, that's okay. 562 00:29:13,416 --> 00:29:14,071 He's a hundred. 563 00:29:14,251 --> 00:29:16,531 He's, yeah, I mean, I, that guy blows my mind. 564 00:29:16,591 --> 00:29:18,901 I just wanna say right now, first of all, it was a great show. 565 00:29:18,901 --> 00:29:22,451 He only played for an hour, but what do you expect when you're 89 years old? Yeah, he's 89. 566 00:29:22,571 --> 00:29:23,581 He's eight today. 567 00:29:23,881 --> 00:29:24,541 Today's 90. 568 00:29:24,541 --> 00:29:24,811 Yeah. 569 00:29:24,901 --> 00:29:25,351 Happy birthday. 570 00:29:25,351 --> 00:29:26,671 And he's on tour until October. 571 00:29:26,671 --> 00:29:27,181 Right. 572 00:29:27,541 --> 00:29:30,061 What I said, if I'm unsure when I'm 90, you'll wait for me. 573 00:29:30,061 --> 00:29:30,961 Love that guy. 574 00:29:30,961 --> 00:29:43,261 But in the seventies, and you, you probably remember this, I mean, you, if you went to go see a rock concert, they were at least two hours late because they were like, had to get over their, their, their drug or whatever they were doing backstage, Well, I did not go to rock concerts. 575 00:29:43,261 --> 00:29:45,331 I was a young gay boy, so, oh, that's right. 576 00:29:45,336 --> 00:29:54,531 I, I saw artists who actually came out and sang and r and b hugely into r and b in the seventies and well even now in fact, I'm going to see Stephanie Mills Saturday night. 577 00:29:54,721 --> 00:29:55,081 But. 578 00:29:55,451 --> 00:29:58,876 so r and b artists tend to be on time yeah. 579 00:29:58,876 --> 00:30:01,036 Unless you're Bobby Brown and you're Thornton Coke or something. 580 00:30:01,336 --> 00:30:01,986 That's true. 581 00:30:01,986 --> 00:30:04,166 But, the, the r b artists tend to be on time. 582 00:30:04,396 --> 00:30:13,067 So, in the seventies and eighties I was seeing acts like Confunction and Parliament and Gladys Knight and, and Aretha and just so I can't even count. 583 00:30:13,276 --> 00:30:16,006 I wish I had gone to those so many concerts. 584 00:30:16,216 --> 00:30:23,286 The first concert I ever went to was what's her name? Oh oh, I can't think of any, I actually don't remember the first concert I went to. 585 00:30:23,291 --> 00:30:25,266 I've been to so many in my life. 586 00:30:25,266 --> 00:30:27,136 Because when you work for Billboard or Yeah. 587 00:30:27,336 --> 00:30:32,156 John Greenport or The Advocate and you're doing interviews, all the time and you're always at the show. 588 00:30:32,646 --> 00:30:32,816 Yeah. 589 00:30:32,816 --> 00:30:34,717 I started doing that in junior in high school. 590 00:30:35,076 --> 00:30:41,796 I started working at the high school press, so I started interviewing music artists when I was 16, so 1978. 591 00:30:42,381 --> 00:30:44,961 Yeah, you, I remember my first big play. 592 00:30:45,151 --> 00:30:47,141 My first big play was at the Pans. 593 00:30:47,701 --> 00:30:51,421 I got on their media list in 1978, and I'm still on it. 594 00:30:51,811 --> 00:30:51,931 Yeah. 595 00:30:51,971 --> 00:30:56,151 And it was Earth Kit in Timbuktu and I had no idea. 596 00:30:56,916 --> 00:30:59,286 Why When Eartha came out, I was 16. 597 00:30:59,316 --> 00:31:01,566 Emily Johnson drove cuz she had her driver's permit. 598 00:31:01,926 --> 00:31:21,006 I had no idea that when Eartha came out and she's dropped by these beautiful, gorgeous men and she goes to the edge of the stage and she kicks her leg out, she puts her hands on her hips and she says, I am Salim Lak wave wis to the welcome to I had no idea why she got a 10 minute standing ovation. 599 00:31:21,006 --> 00:31:23,106 I'm like, okay, that was a good line, but why are. 600 00:31:23,511 --> 00:31:43,161 And it was because that was her first American performance after being ostracized by Lady Bird Johnson and being blacklisted for almost two decades because she had the nerve to tell Lady Bird Johnson at the White House that she didn't think it was right, that they were sending black people to fight their war when black people were not equal economically or socially. 601 00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:46,821 Ah, and allegedly she made Lady Bird Johnson cry. 602 00:31:47,086 --> 00:31:47,746 After that. 603 00:31:47,746 --> 00:31:52,696 The f b I blacklisted her, everybody, she could not get a job anywhere except out of the country. 604 00:31:52,696 --> 00:31:52,756 Wow. 605 00:31:52,936 --> 00:31:55,756 That's why she was only on Batman for two episodes as Catwoman. 606 00:31:55,996 --> 00:32:00,076 She got blacklisted by the, by Lyndon Baines Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson. 607 00:32:00,226 --> 00:32:00,316 Oh. 608 00:32:00,316 --> 00:32:03,856 She was the best Catwoman she was, but only two episodes. 609 00:32:03,861 --> 00:32:04,997 I, I, I was a huge fan. 610 00:32:05,236 --> 00:32:07,286 I've seen all those episodes and I remember her episode. 611 00:32:07,366 --> 00:32:09,916 I was with her the kit the night she found out how old she was. 612 00:32:09,921 --> 00:32:10,846 We were in Orange County. 613 00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:12,526 She was doing the Segas from center. 614 00:32:12,706 --> 00:32:16,036 I had interviewed, I, I've interviewed Arthur probably six or seven times. 615 00:32:16,126 --> 00:32:16,576 She's just a. 616 00:32:16,676 --> 00:32:17,336 Fun interview. 617 00:32:17,766 --> 00:32:24,476 And she had told me during one of the interviews that she was born, as a sharecropper's daughter and that they didn't have a birth certificate. 618 00:32:24,536 --> 00:32:24,566 Oh. 619 00:32:24,926 --> 00:32:28,196 And so she never knew the year or date that she was born. 620 00:32:28,646 --> 00:32:29,876 Well, that was well known. 621 00:32:29,876 --> 00:32:39,926 And so some rabid fans of hers back in the early late nineties or early two thousands actually dug up documentation about her and found her birthday. 622 00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:40,246 Wow. 623 00:32:40,496 --> 00:32:42,326 And they came to the circus from center. 624 00:32:42,861 --> 00:32:47,421 And presented her with the documents to show her how old she really was. 625 00:32:47,881 --> 00:32:51,361 And I was with her when she learned that she was in her seventies. 626 00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:51,871 Wow. 627 00:32:51,871 --> 00:32:53,011 That must have been moving. 628 00:32:53,281 --> 00:32:53,491 Wow. 629 00:32:53,491 --> 00:32:54,791 It was something actually, yeah. 630 00:32:54,961 --> 00:32:55,261 Yeah. 631 00:32:55,351 --> 00:32:55,891 Wow. 632 00:32:55,896 --> 00:32:56,151 Incredible. 633 00:32:56,491 --> 00:32:57,931 I'm not sure that I want to know. 634 00:32:59,131 --> 00:32:59,751 Yeah, exactly. 635 00:33:00,271 --> 00:33:00,871 Oh, she was so funny. 636 00:33:01,011 --> 00:33:02,161 She was so funny. 637 00:33:02,431 --> 00:33:05,071 Tell me what you think of, tell me what you think of Barbara Streisand. 638 00:33:05,491 --> 00:33:07,201 She's done very well with that one note. 639 00:33:09,676 --> 00:33:12,106 What about Madonna? She's an interesting business woman. 640 00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:13,156 Well, no, she's a singer. 641 00:33:13,336 --> 00:33:15,286 Like I said, she's an interesting business woman. 642 00:33:16,806 --> 00:33:19,166 I, I would we would have so much fun all the time. 643 00:33:19,646 --> 00:33:22,256 I just remember the first concert I went to Earth, wind and Fire. 644 00:33:22,261 --> 00:33:22,686 That's what it was. 645 00:33:23,006 --> 00:33:24,807 Ah, do you remember? Yeah, they were great. 646 00:33:25,226 --> 00:33:26,516 I saw 'em in recently. 647 00:33:26,596 --> 00:33:29,876 They, they were, they were lip syncing to a recording, but That's okay. 648 00:33:29,876 --> 00:33:30,896 They're like 90 years old. 649 00:33:30,896 --> 00:33:33,236 Well, Philip is still alive, but Maurice White isn't. 650 00:33:33,396 --> 00:33:33,686 Yeah. 651 00:33:33,926 --> 00:33:35,966 And I'm not sure Philip can still do that. 652 00:33:39,506 --> 00:33:40,306 Oh, that's nice. 653 00:33:40,306 --> 00:33:40,956 Not sure. 654 00:33:41,086 --> 00:33:41,376 Yeah. 655 00:33:41,381 --> 00:33:41,456 Yeah. 656 00:33:41,726 --> 00:33:41,906 Oh, yes. 657 00:33:41,906 --> 00:33:48,806 Well, it sounded like they were doing it, but then all of a sudden I heard a female voice and I realized, oh, there's a, there's a backing track going on here. 658 00:33:48,806 --> 00:33:49,196 So, I don't know. 659 00:33:49,196 --> 00:33:51,266 Well, the emotions aren't around anymore either. 660 00:33:51,271 --> 00:33:53,096 And then Earthman and Fire and the Emotions. 661 00:33:53,096 --> 00:33:55,721 Boogie Wonderland is perhaps the best song, ever. 662 00:33:55,801 --> 00:33:55,961 Yeah. 663 00:33:55,976 --> 00:33:58,296 They sing that, they sing that romance. 664 00:33:58,886 --> 00:34:04,316 When I start to dance in, oh yes. 665 00:34:04,586 --> 00:34:06,086 Oh, you're sounding good today. 666 00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:10,526 I grew up with, I grew up with Bill Bailey and the emotions. 667 00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:16,071 See, I saw the emotions back when when they had, when, when I see you again. 668 00:34:16,281 --> 00:34:16,851 Oh, I love this song. 669 00:34:16,911 --> 00:34:17,241 Oh, yes. 670 00:34:17,241 --> 00:34:18,501 I and Fri of Pain. 671 00:34:18,501 --> 00:34:21,681 Now that you gone, I saw her sing Band of Gold. 672 00:34:22,096 --> 00:34:22,636 Oh yeah. 673 00:34:22,726 --> 00:34:23,296 Oh yeah. 674 00:34:23,296 --> 00:34:24,806 That's who I grew up going to see. 675 00:34:24,906 --> 00:34:33,016 Hey, I have to tell you the other day I mean I guess it was a couple months ago, maybe you played a clip from you and Andrew doing that thing at Burger King or McDonald's. 676 00:34:33,021 --> 00:34:33,616 Or McDonald's. 677 00:34:33,616 --> 00:34:34,366 My McDonald's, yeah. 678 00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:36,557 Oh my god, I was laughing so hard. 679 00:34:36,946 --> 00:34:38,276 Oh, it's very, and I was cracking. 680 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:45,646 It's still very talked about segment where I, I did that because my late roommate, Gary Alexander, used to work at that McDonald's. 681 00:34:46,036 --> 00:34:46,156 Yeah. 682 00:34:46,156 --> 00:34:47,596 And Gary died of aids. 683 00:34:48,016 --> 00:34:59,176 And I, we were looking for ideas and I, I told my program director, David Hall, I said, well, my late roommate Gary used to always want to tell the people at the drive-through what he really thought of them. 684 00:34:59,596 --> 00:34:59,656 Yeah. 685 00:34:59,946 --> 00:35:01,781 but he couldn't, of course, cuz he wanted to keep his job. 686 00:35:02,101 --> 00:35:05,131 And I knew the owner of the McDonald's, because Gary had worked there for a decade. 687 00:35:06,041 --> 00:35:07,631 John Fos Knight, who happened to be gay. 688 00:35:07,631 --> 00:35:07,632 Mm-hmm. 689 00:35:07,741 --> 00:35:08,611 He's dead now too. 690 00:35:08,901 --> 00:35:10,851 And so I talked to John. 691 00:35:10,856 --> 00:35:13,731 I said, look, you can't clear this with corporate because they're gonna say no. 692 00:35:14,061 --> 00:35:16,131 Right? But he said, no, come on and do it. 693 00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:19,461 So Andrew and I went down with our staff and we micd the. 694 00:35:20,136 --> 00:35:21,696 Joe Tbe, not Joe tbe. 695 00:35:21,696 --> 00:35:23,826 It was Tony Dekel who just passed away here in Vegas. 696 00:35:24,306 --> 00:35:25,116 Great engineer. 697 00:35:25,116 --> 00:35:26,166 Fabulous engineer. 698 00:35:26,376 --> 00:35:26,616 Oh, yes. 699 00:35:26,616 --> 00:35:32,046 Remember you And Tony Dekel could make, he could take a coat hanger into a closet and put you on air. 700 00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:37,696 so he micd and we sat on the menu that we're live on air, but it was just a menu item. 701 00:35:37,696 --> 00:35:39,676 It did you, we had to read it. 702 00:35:40,116 --> 00:35:45,066 And of course I worked the drive through and we weren't supposed to do it for 45 minutes, and we ended up doing it for three hours. 703 00:35:45,616 --> 00:35:59,221 And it, it was one of the most fun that I've had, but I, because I did it as an homage to my late friend Gary, who passed away from h I v aids, and, it was sort of like, I'm gonna do what he always wanted to do for him. 704 00:35:59,651 --> 00:36:05,581 The day after John Foz and I got called to Taco Bell Corporate of course he owned five I'm sorry, to McDonald's. 705 00:36:05,821 --> 00:36:12,091 Of course, he owned five McDonald's, including the ones inside Disneyland, and he got called up to McDonald's corporate. 706 00:36:12,476 --> 00:36:14,816 And they said we would love to chastise you. 707 00:36:14,816 --> 00:36:18,986 We would love to, to, take some sort of repercussion. 708 00:36:19,286 --> 00:36:25,716 The only problem is the phones haven't stopped ringing all day with everyone saying how fabulous it was and how much they enjoyed it. 709 00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:27,766 So McDonald's corporate la. 710 00:36:28,641 --> 00:36:35,871 Was going to reprimand him for letting me do it, but they had such an overwhelming response to it that they had to just leave him alone. 711 00:36:36,271 --> 00:36:44,731 So and I, we never found out until a year or two later that McDonald's had been called all day long at their corporate office about our gig. 712 00:36:45,301 --> 00:36:52,881 Also, we found out what's his name? Why am I forgetting his name? Late night host David Letterman, worked at a fast food restaurant on his show. 713 00:36:53,356 --> 00:37:01,906 We found out that his producer heard me at the McDonald's and took that idea to Letterman and then Letterman did it. 714 00:37:02,216 --> 00:37:06,206 Letterman did that at working a drive-through because of my show. 715 00:37:06,326 --> 00:37:06,756 Oh, wow. 716 00:37:07,751 --> 00:37:13,001 That happens a lot in radio where a lot of things are innovated and people steal it and, and they don't know. 717 00:37:13,001 --> 00:37:14,981 Particularly in LA radio where I have. 718 00:37:14,981 --> 00:37:15,491 Yeah, yeah. 719 00:37:15,491 --> 00:37:17,021 I just met someone here in Vegas the other day. 720 00:37:17,021 --> 00:37:20,021 I was out having lunch at a vegan restaurant here, and they recognized my voice. 721 00:37:20,021 --> 00:37:22,121 They're like, oh my God, you came on right before Phil Hendry. 722 00:37:22,331 --> 00:37:23,291 I work in the industry. 723 00:37:23,291 --> 00:37:24,991 I'm a set dresser, and blah. 724 00:37:24,991 --> 00:37:25,381 Mm-hmm. 725 00:37:25,451 --> 00:37:28,871 I mean, there's a, an animated show called Queer Duck, which is me. 726 00:37:29,181 --> 00:37:34,311 Mike Reese, one of the creators of the Simpsons, used to listen to our show and he wanted. 727 00:37:34,511 --> 00:37:36,521 To do this show about me and Andy. 728 00:37:36,821 --> 00:37:44,771 So he created this cartoon called Queer Duck at the time for Icebox, which was an early website that did web animations in Java script. 729 00:37:45,291 --> 00:37:47,271 And so he created the show. 730 00:37:47,451 --> 00:37:48,711 He wanted me to be the voice. 731 00:37:48,711 --> 00:37:53,976 I went and auditioned for it cuz he goes, look, I have to have you audition cuz it's the studio and not me. 732 00:37:54,381 --> 00:38:02,061 And the only reason I didn't get it, and Jim j Bullock did, is because I could only do one voice and Jim j Bullock could do five. 733 00:38:02,461 --> 00:38:14,791 So he got the part of Queer Duck, even though it's me and that show went on to be on Showtime and Ollie Gator and all the other, the characters in the show was based on what Mike Reese would hear us talking about our friends. 734 00:38:15,691 --> 00:38:16,261 Oh, wow. 735 00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:16,691 Amazing. 736 00:38:16,841 --> 00:38:17,331 Amazing. 737 00:38:17,551 --> 00:38:18,991 Never got a dime for it, but Oh well. 738 00:38:19,801 --> 00:38:21,151 So, so common. 739 00:38:21,661 --> 00:38:29,581 So in case people don't realize, I mean you, you were, you were, you were working at the drive-through and Andrew was, you had an earpiece or something and he was telling you Yeah. 740 00:38:29,911 --> 00:38:32,731 He was like suggesting what you could say to the people ordering the shoes. 741 00:38:32,731 --> 00:38:32,821 Yeah. 742 00:38:32,826 --> 00:38:34,441 They always had him, they always had him do that. 743 00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:40,591 Like when I was holding and you were razing these people like, oh yeah, like when the lady ordered the fried fish and the french fries with a diet Coke. 744 00:38:40,591 --> 00:38:40,981 I'm a bitch. 745 00:38:40,981 --> 00:38:42,211 you want the milkshake. 746 00:38:42,211 --> 00:38:43,382 Just have it for the love of God. 747 00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:43,901 That's great. 748 00:38:44,101 --> 00:38:46,326 it's, So you, I mean, Yeah. 749 00:38:46,326 --> 00:38:48,426 I mean, because that people are absurd. 750 00:38:48,966 --> 00:38:58,686 Or when the Hispanic gentlemen cat could never get away with it today, but no, these Hispanic gentlemen came through and they had this huge Mexican accent, and I said, honey, you think this is El Poeo Loco that's up the street. 751 00:38:59,136 --> 00:39:00,396 It's like, this is McDonald's. 752 00:39:00,396 --> 00:39:01,476 We serve burgers. 753 00:39:01,481 --> 00:39:02,766 We don't serve the flame, bro. 754 00:39:02,771 --> 00:39:05,046 Chicken no, no, I want a burger. 755 00:39:05,046 --> 00:39:09,246 And I, well, then you don't want an ambient gea, then you want a Big Mac, say Big Mac. 756 00:39:09,636 --> 00:39:09,926 So yeah. 757 00:39:10,306 --> 00:39:11,196 So we did that. 758 00:39:11,201 --> 00:39:13,776 When I went out and was homeless, I, I saw one day. 759 00:39:14,016 --> 00:39:18,186 There was a woman that decided she was gonna see how much money she could get with a particular sign. 760 00:39:18,751 --> 00:39:23,251 And I thought, well, I wonder how much each sign makes, like if honesty counts on the sign. 761 00:39:23,761 --> 00:39:29,981 And we had heard that the homeless people switched their signs a amongst each other and share dogs and children and stuff to try to get more money. 762 00:39:30,401 --> 00:39:32,321 So I said, well, I wanna go out with three signs. 763 00:39:32,321 --> 00:39:37,091 We'll work for food, we'll work for booze, or, or Please gimme money for food. 764 00:39:37,091 --> 00:39:38,141 Please gimme money for booze. 765 00:39:38,306 --> 00:39:43,016 Or please gimme money for Pod and I wanna see which sign gets the most. 766 00:39:43,286 --> 00:39:45,056 So they, we had a Hollywood makeup artist. 767 00:39:45,056 --> 00:39:51,836 I was doing a show called Ultimate Revenge with Ryan Seacrest and Mark Summers, and we had the makeup artist from that show come over and do my makeup. 768 00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:57,056 And it was so good that the security guard that was supposed to go out to protect me actually threw me out of the K F I building. 769 00:39:57,426 --> 00:39:59,106 Because he thought I was a real homeless person. 770 00:39:59,506 --> 00:39:59,846 Oh, wow. 771 00:39:59,851 --> 00:40:06,331 And oh yeah, so, so I go out on the corner of the metro station at Wilshire and we're crossing the Wilshire Theater. 772 00:40:06,781 --> 00:40:09,921 And the, the pot made the most money, the pot sign. 773 00:40:10,311 --> 00:40:13,521 But a, I found out how aggressive homeless people are about their territory. 774 00:40:13,521 --> 00:40:14,152 That's the first thing. 775 00:40:14,701 --> 00:40:18,631 Number two, I found out that people do not look at homeless people. 776 00:40:18,631 --> 00:40:22,321 I stood at the top of a great escalator coming from the down underneath trains. 777 00:40:22,791 --> 00:40:27,681 Saying hello to people as they streamed out on both sides of me, and nobody looked at me. 778 00:40:27,981 --> 00:40:29,241 Nobody spoke to me. 779 00:40:29,421 --> 00:40:33,141 No one looked at me, and it showed me how we all overlook these people. 780 00:40:33,146 --> 00:40:33,921 We don't look at them. 781 00:40:33,921 --> 00:40:40,011 We, I say hello to every person I meet, including the homeless and, and many homeless and Desert Breeze Park will attest to that. 782 00:40:40,011 --> 00:40:40,911 I know all their names. 783 00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:41,422 I ask their names. 784 00:40:42,101 --> 00:40:45,771 They're people, they're humans and they deserve to be addressed. 785 00:40:46,401 --> 00:40:49,431 And I don't care that you don't like their living situation or that they stink. 786 00:40:49,436 --> 00:40:50,261 I don't care. 787 00:40:50,951 --> 00:40:51,631 they're human. 788 00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:52,961 I address animals though. 789 00:40:52,961 --> 00:40:55,331 I talk to Grackles, I talk to anybody, dogs, whatever. 790 00:40:55,336 --> 00:41:01,091 If it's a living thing, it deserves to be addressed, but I learned that, that they, they don't address you. 791 00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:04,326 and so then Andrew was in my ear. 792 00:41:04,326 --> 00:41:09,916 We again, I was supposed to do it for an hour, ended up doing it for three, and Andrew's in my ear saying, well sing, sing a song. 793 00:41:09,941 --> 00:41:11,166 And he would say, sing Billy Jean. 794 00:41:11,166 --> 00:41:18,706 And plus, suddenly I'm out there singing Billy Jean or whatever, and no one ever thought it was weird that I was talking to myself, even though I was talking on the radio because I was homeless. 795 00:41:18,711 --> 00:41:20,686 And so they just thought I was fucking crazy, so, mm-hmm. 796 00:41:21,256 --> 00:41:25,136 so I would be talking to him and the listeners, the listeners were calling in and suggesting I do things. 797 00:41:25,376 --> 00:41:27,386 Then Andrew said, say, praise Jesus a lot. 798 00:41:27,391 --> 00:41:28,256 See how much money you make. 799 00:41:28,286 --> 00:41:28,766 Oh my God. 800 00:41:28,766 --> 00:41:29,936 The money started rolling in. 801 00:41:29,936 --> 00:41:30,746 I was like, Wow. 802 00:41:30,746 --> 00:41:31,316 Praise Jesus. 803 00:41:31,316 --> 00:41:31,826 Hallelujah. 804 00:41:31,826 --> 00:41:32,846 Thank Jesus. 805 00:41:33,126 --> 00:41:34,776 And oh yeah, money just started rolling. 806 00:41:34,781 --> 00:41:35,216 Incredible. 807 00:41:35,466 --> 00:41:39,306 I subsequently, when I was done, I had collected over $200 in three hours. 808 00:41:39,696 --> 00:41:40,836 I thought, well, this isn't a bad gig. 809 00:41:41,136 --> 00:41:41,646 Ah, yeah. 810 00:41:41,826 --> 00:41:47,986 But I subsequently gave it to a homeless veteran whose area I had taken over with my wheelchair and everything. 811 00:41:48,046 --> 00:41:49,686 Cuz I brought a wheelchair and the whole thing. 812 00:41:49,966 --> 00:41:52,276 And I gave it to this homeless veteran that was there. 813 00:41:52,776 --> 00:41:54,066 I said, here, here have this money. 814 00:41:54,336 --> 00:41:56,226 He couldn't understand why I was giving it to him. 815 00:41:56,226 --> 00:41:57,666 And then finally I pulled off the wig instead. 816 00:41:57,666 --> 00:41:59,606 I said, look, I was doing a bit, oh. 817 00:41:59,606 --> 00:42:00,806 I thought you were one of us. 818 00:42:00,806 --> 00:42:05,726 I go, I was, I was homeless for over a year, so trust me, I, I was one of you, but just not today. 819 00:42:05,756 --> 00:42:06,326 Not wood. 820 00:42:06,326 --> 00:42:07,766 I'm lucky enough now to have a home. 821 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:08,246 Yeah. 822 00:42:08,306 --> 00:42:10,131 But, so yeah, it was great fun. 823 00:42:10,131 --> 00:42:17,841 And every time they would send me out and Andrew would stay behind and talk to me in my ear and tell me what to do or what to, things to say to people. 824 00:42:18,566 --> 00:42:19,946 No, I, I haven't heard any of those. 825 00:42:19,946 --> 00:42:21,386 I would love to hear the homeless ones. 826 00:42:21,446 --> 00:42:24,116 Oh, they're, they're, they're hyster, they're, they're fun. 827 00:42:24,116 --> 00:42:25,436 The sci tell you the tapes. 828 00:42:25,616 --> 00:42:26,156 Oh yeah. 829 00:42:26,156 --> 00:42:31,346 The Scientology one is hysterical because I just got bored one day and I said, I wanna go for a walk down Hollywood Boulevard. 830 00:42:31,746 --> 00:42:33,936 And so Tony Dinkle said, well, let's get in the remote van. 831 00:42:33,936 --> 00:42:41,346 So we, we went over and I just was talking on the radio while Andrew was at the studio, and the Scientologists were given their quiz out in front of Scientology. 832 00:42:41,736 --> 00:42:43,356 And I thought, oh, I'll take this live on the radio. 833 00:42:43,771 --> 00:42:44,551 And they wouldn't let me. 834 00:42:45,001 --> 00:42:47,431 And I said, well, why won't you let, you're all here on the sidewalk. 835 00:42:47,431 --> 00:42:48,541 You're giving everybody the quiz. 836 00:42:48,541 --> 00:42:53,131 Why not give me the quiz? Suddenly five black, five men in black suits are surrounding me. 837 00:42:53,251 --> 00:42:53,541 Yeah. 838 00:42:53,671 --> 00:42:54,691 On the public sidewalk. 839 00:42:54,841 --> 00:42:55,061 Wow. 840 00:42:55,061 --> 00:42:59,341 And, and said, and I'm like, what's going on here? And oh, well, we're gonna have the head of the church come down. 841 00:42:59,341 --> 00:43:02,301 And I thought, I don't need the head of no goddamn to you went, first of all, getting the church, y'all crazy. 842 00:43:03,251 --> 00:43:08,331 But so they called the police, and the police roll up listening to me on the radio. 843 00:43:08,851 --> 00:43:10,801 Ah, and they get outta the car and they go, cor. 844 00:43:10,801 --> 00:43:12,361 And the first one, the cop says, it's Corll. 845 00:43:12,361 --> 00:43:15,841 What are you doing? And I said, I just wanted to take this test. 846 00:43:15,841 --> 00:43:20,911 They're out here on the public sidewalk giving it to the public, but they won't give it to me. 847 00:43:21,301 --> 00:43:25,801 And so the, these men are surrounding me, and the cops are, why are you surrounding him? He's on a public sidewalk. 848 00:43:25,801 --> 00:43:27,181 Plus he has an lap D press credential. 849 00:43:27,481 --> 00:43:29,341 So he's allowed to be wherever he wants to be. 850 00:43:29,341 --> 00:43:30,451 So clear away from him. 851 00:43:30,841 --> 00:43:33,661 So the, the, and all of this is going out live on K F I. 852 00:43:33,846 --> 00:43:34,296 All of it. 853 00:43:34,566 --> 00:43:39,546 In fact, you can Google Corll Scientology and the audio is still out there. 854 00:43:39,666 --> 00:43:39,846 Oh, good. 855 00:43:39,846 --> 00:43:41,316 From the anti Scientologist. 856 00:43:41,856 --> 00:43:41,976 Okay. 857 00:43:41,976 --> 00:43:48,947 Because it all went out on the radio about how crazy they treated me and then how the cops came and how it just all went crazy after that. 858 00:43:49,731 --> 00:43:53,751 And they never did let me take the test, and I still believe they're all insane. 859 00:43:53,811 --> 00:43:55,761 So I guess it's a fair sort of trade. 860 00:43:55,766 --> 00:43:55,971 Yeah. 861 00:43:55,971 --> 00:43:56,891 Well, it's a cult. 862 00:43:57,161 --> 00:43:58,331 It's cult cult. 863 00:43:58,331 --> 00:43:58,891 They're all cult. 864 00:43:58,891 --> 00:44:01,581 It's a Catholic church is a cult largest child raping in the world. 865 00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:02,431 I agree. 866 00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:05,091 I, I hate that Joe Biden, professor Catholicism. 867 00:44:05,096 --> 00:44:06,861 It's like, so you're a member of a child rape ring. 868 00:44:06,861 --> 00:44:07,252 Good for you. 869 00:44:07,671 --> 00:44:12,711 I grew up as a Catholic and, and left promptly when I, they didn't screw me. 870 00:44:12,711 --> 00:44:15,186 I'm like, what? I mean, that's the ultimate rejection. 871 00:44:15,246 --> 00:44:15,426 Yeah. 872 00:44:15,426 --> 00:44:18,936 You're screwing every, you go, my God, for years I went to a therapist. 873 00:44:18,936 --> 00:44:21,606 He's like, why do you have no self-esteem? I said, the priest never touched me. 874 00:44:22,196 --> 00:44:23,306 And he is like, that's a problem. 875 00:44:23,311 --> 00:44:28,376 I go, whether fucking everybody else, It's like I gave him the wine, I gave him the communion, wafers. 876 00:44:28,376 --> 00:44:28,766 Nothing. 877 00:44:28,771 --> 00:44:29,786 Never laid a hand on me. 878 00:44:29,876 --> 00:44:38,126 Okay, so now I have to ask you, are you gonna come up and do some standup up here again? I would love you to, I, it's it after Covid, everything got crazy. 879 00:44:38,126 --> 00:44:38,186 Yeah. 880 00:44:38,186 --> 00:44:39,536 And bookings got crazy. 881 00:44:39,836 --> 00:44:39,896 Yeah. 882 00:44:39,896 --> 00:44:42,956 And now if you wanna do a venue, they want you to put a guarantee up front. 883 00:44:43,496 --> 00:44:48,296 It's like, so you gotta put down two grand or four grand if you want to go do a show and hope you make it back. 884 00:44:48,386 --> 00:44:48,896 That's crazy. 885 00:44:49,256 --> 00:44:52,796 so, and people like Cobbs Comedy Club and stuff, they're just not paying what they used to. 886 00:44:52,801 --> 00:45:07,871 There's no travel expenses, there's no, so it's, it's Bruce Lynch and I were just talking about this, it's just, it's very hard nowadays to get back out on the road unless you're backed by a live nation or someone who's gonna pick up the tab for travel and for, meals and. 887 00:45:08,221 --> 00:45:11,801 Hotels and, things like that because it can get expensive. 888 00:45:11,801 --> 00:45:17,391 And unless you're gonna charge a hundred bucks a ticket, if you're at a 200 seat venue, you're charging 40 bucks. 889 00:45:17,731 --> 00:45:20,001 That's, what, $8,000. 890 00:45:20,291 --> 00:45:28,171 And if you're spending two or three or four on expenses, so but yes, I want to, I am looking into some of the venues. 891 00:45:28,176 --> 00:45:31,171 I used to do the RAs room, which is now called Feinstein's. 892 00:45:31,441 --> 00:45:31,531 Yeah. 893 00:45:31,561 --> 00:45:32,611 Something in San Jose. 894 00:45:32,611 --> 00:45:34,471 I'd like to do the San Jose Civic Auditorium. 895 00:45:34,476 --> 00:45:36,061 They have smaller venues there. 896 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:36,211 Yeah. 897 00:45:36,451 --> 00:45:39,541 Instead of a 4,000 seat venue, they have other venues there. 898 00:45:39,561 --> 00:45:39,851 Yeah. 899 00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:41,961 But yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm certainly looking into it. 900 00:45:41,961 --> 00:45:43,481 Pride season is happening. 901 00:45:44,021 --> 00:45:48,521 We're gonna talk to a couple Pride, San Jose Pride and others, and see if maybe we can get involved in those. 902 00:45:49,361 --> 00:45:52,361 So, yeah, I'm, I'm looking to, me and Ember are ready to get back out again. 903 00:45:52,541 --> 00:45:52,931 Great. 904 00:45:53,141 --> 00:45:53,411 Great. 905 00:45:53,411 --> 00:45:54,581 Well, we'd love to have you up here. 906 00:45:55,011 --> 00:45:55,301 Yeah. 907 00:45:56,366 --> 00:45:58,536 Well it's, Gwen, been great talking to you, Corll. 908 00:45:58,836 --> 00:45:59,556 Really enjoyed it. 909 00:45:59,796 --> 00:46:01,026 Thanks so much for doing this. 910 00:46:01,026 --> 00:46:02,076 I really appreciate it. 911 00:46:02,076 --> 00:46:02,296 No worries. 912 00:46:02,556 --> 00:46:03,306 Absolutely. 913 00:46:03,576 --> 00:46:06,156 And congratulations on your Ukrainian stage benefit. 914 00:46:06,156 --> 00:46:08,136 I think it's great that you do something for the Ukraine. 915 00:46:08,196 --> 00:46:09,006 Oh, you saw that? Yeah. 916 00:46:09,456 --> 00:46:11,826 Today, 19 more deaths in the Ukraine. 917 00:46:11,831 --> 00:46:12,076 Yeah. 918 00:46:12,616 --> 00:46:14,167 this war has now been going on over a year. 919 00:46:14,246 --> 00:46:17,856 If it were a good white nation being bombed, we would've ended it in 20 minutes. 920 00:46:18,356 --> 00:46:18,806 I know. 921 00:46:18,806 --> 00:46:24,566 But the fact that it's Ukrainians that most of us don't know any, or, all people have to say is, oh, their president's kind of cute. 922 00:46:24,566 --> 00:46:25,186 It's like, whatever. 923 00:46:25,186 --> 00:46:26,936 But, people are dying. 924 00:46:26,966 --> 00:46:33,151 And the atrocities that Russia is committing are horrific and should not only be condemned by the world, but there should be action. 925 00:46:33,761 --> 00:46:38,256 we, the world NATO should call Putin and say, you stopped today, or We bomb the fuck outta St. 926 00:46:38,256 --> 00:46:38,856 Petersburg. 927 00:46:39,346 --> 00:46:43,276 and if you even dare threaten us with a nuclear weapon, we will have you assassinated. 928 00:46:43,746 --> 00:46:45,596 you'll wake up with a bullet between your head. 929 00:46:45,626 --> 00:46:49,546 Well, like you said, if it was a western European country, that's what we would've done immediately. 930 00:46:49,646 --> 00:46:50,726 That's exactly right. 931 00:46:50,816 --> 00:46:51,716 So it's Eastern European. 932 00:46:51,716 --> 00:46:52,856 It's, it's Eastern Europe. 933 00:46:52,861 --> 00:46:57,666 And, and our compassion only goes so far for people that we don't feel that we know or understand. 934 00:46:57,986 --> 00:46:58,046 Yeah. 935 00:46:58,326 --> 00:46:59,796 I am looking at Ukraine right now. 936 00:46:59,796 --> 00:47:03,976 I have a giant map on my wall here, and I, I, I know the complexities of it. 937 00:47:03,976 --> 00:47:07,486 I see what it borders, and I see how it, where Russia is and all of that. 938 00:47:08,001 --> 00:47:08,991 But that doesn't matter. 939 00:47:09,201 --> 00:47:15,951 What matters is they're killing innocent people and Americans have an, an easy way of looking away from that sort of thing. 940 00:47:15,951 --> 00:47:19,431 28 school children die and the next day we're onto something else. 941 00:47:20,206 --> 00:47:23,656 innocent people die in our country every single day at the hands. 942 00:47:23,656 --> 00:47:28,186 An Uber driver who's freaking dismembered for delivering Uber Eats really? So innocent. 943 00:47:28,366 --> 00:47:28,786 Oh yeah. 944 00:47:28,786 --> 00:47:29,566 Just two days ago. 945 00:47:29,806 --> 00:47:33,566 So innocent people die every day and we've become numb to it. 946 00:47:33,926 --> 00:47:38,246 And that's the most dangerous thing that's happened in today's society that we have now. 947 00:47:38,246 --> 00:47:41,036 We have now become numb to homelessness. 948 00:47:41,546 --> 00:47:42,446 We're just numb to it. 949 00:47:42,446 --> 00:47:43,136 It angers us. 950 00:47:43,136 --> 00:47:43,346 It does. 951 00:47:43,676 --> 00:47:47,186 Homelessness is a complete failure of government, and we are government. 952 00:47:47,621 --> 00:47:49,751 So that means that homelessness is our failure. 953 00:47:50,081 --> 00:47:51,401 It's, it's our failure. 954 00:47:51,721 --> 00:47:54,001 It's not their failure, it's our failure. 955 00:47:54,391 --> 00:47:55,771 It's unaffordable housing. 956 00:47:55,771 --> 00:47:57,301 It's no social safety net. 957 00:47:57,601 --> 00:48:06,451 It's all kinds of problems and not adequate mental healthcare, treating alcoholics or drug addicts like criminals instead of like people who have an actual medical disorder. 958 00:48:07,181 --> 00:48:10,236 you wouldn't treat cancer patients the way that you treat alcoholics. 959 00:48:10,236 --> 00:48:11,076 It's the same thing. 960 00:48:11,256 --> 00:48:13,326 It's a medical disorder in Europe. 961 00:48:13,326 --> 00:48:25,747 They register alcoholics, they register drug addicts as such, and when they get into these programs, they're not thrown out if they drink or if they do drugs because they're a registered drug addict, they're a registered alcoholic, so they're allowed over here. 962 00:48:25,752 --> 00:48:30,726 We like to tell poor people it will help you, but only if you live up to our conditions. 963 00:48:31,226 --> 00:48:35,936 Just now the bill that just went through with McCarthy, where they wanna raise the age for food benefits. 964 00:48:35,936 --> 00:48:39,416 They want to, make sure you're doing this or that before they give you food. 965 00:48:39,596 --> 00:48:44,186 The notion that we would put regulations on how to feed people just shows whether horrible people would become. 966 00:48:44,386 --> 00:48:44,806 Mm-hmm. 967 00:48:45,006 --> 00:48:53,496 And so the fact that we can turn away from the in chenia where there are gay con concentration camps going on right now, really watch the movie. 968 00:48:53,496 --> 00:48:56,256 Welcome to Chenia, which just came out last year. 969 00:48:56,436 --> 00:49:00,456 These are concentration camps used by Hitler that are now being used in Che. 970 00:49:00,636 --> 00:49:02,076 For suspected gaze. 971 00:49:02,466 --> 00:49:06,906 You don't hear the un denouncing it, you don't hear any, any riots over it. 972 00:49:07,176 --> 00:49:11,496 We are able now to turn a blind eye to so much that it's taken the human part of us out. 973 00:49:11,926 --> 00:49:13,096 And that's really sad. 974 00:49:13,426 --> 00:49:18,106 And so every time I hear about 19 dead in the Ukraine, I think that's 19 families. 975 00:49:18,106 --> 00:49:19,036 That's 19. 976 00:49:19,041 --> 00:49:24,136 Brothers and sisters and mothers, family, pets that are being killed and destroyed in all of this. 977 00:49:24,496 --> 00:49:26,536 It's just a huge loss of life and. 978 00:49:27,041 --> 00:49:28,301 We can't let up on it. 979 00:49:28,301 --> 00:49:32,201 We have to continue to remind people it's happening and that they need our help. 980 00:49:32,201 --> 00:49:32,261 Yeah. 981 00:49:32,601 --> 00:49:41,191 And so by doing your monthly stage thing, by talking about it, by putting it out there, you at least remind people that it's still going on, that people are still dying needlessly. 982 00:49:41,671 --> 00:49:41,831 Yeah. 983 00:49:42,181 --> 00:49:44,186 any little amount that anybody can do. 984 00:49:44,186 --> 00:49:47,566 If, if all of us just did a little bit, it would make a difference. 985 00:49:47,566 --> 00:49:51,146 And, I, I, I, I'm so happy that I have this vehicle where I can do that. 986 00:49:51,146 --> 00:49:58,286 And other people, whatever you can do, if you just do a little bit, if everybody did a little bit, it would make a huge difference. 987 00:49:58,546 --> 00:49:59,986 It's the same thing like with the diet. 988 00:49:59,986 --> 00:50:02,116 I said 50 bucks a month of cause of war. 989 00:50:02,116 --> 00:50:05,926 Cause of war is a charity that helps rescue animals. 990 00:50:05,926 --> 00:50:08,026 Right now they're working solely in the Ukraine. 991 00:50:08,356 --> 00:50:08,536 Yeah. 992 00:50:08,566 --> 00:50:12,386 And these are animals that have been dis displaced by war, right? Yeah. 993 00:50:12,386 --> 00:50:14,846 They, people flee and they leave their dogs and cats and everything behind. 994 00:50:15,256 --> 00:50:15,977 They just leave them behind. 995 00:50:15,982 --> 00:50:17,511 They incredible suffering. 996 00:50:17,721 --> 00:50:19,726 they have nowhere to get food, water. 997 00:50:19,906 --> 00:50:23,006 And so this organization, pa it's called Paws of War. 998 00:50:23,226 --> 00:50:26,796 They go in and they actually bring food, bring water, get the pets. 999 00:50:27,206 --> 00:50:33,176 Now we've made this ridiculous rule here in the United States that we don't let animals come into the United States from countries that have rabies. 1000 00:50:33,566 --> 00:50:36,656 And so we can't adopt a pet from the Ukraine here. 1001 00:50:36,746 --> 00:50:41,306 It has to go through Canada and then come to the United States, but they're doing it. 1002 00:50:41,356 --> 00:50:43,006 And so we are helping. 1003 00:50:43,006 --> 00:50:48,526 And so I know that's not helping humans, but there's a lot of agencies, red Cross and others that are helping humans. 1004 00:50:48,706 --> 00:50:53,456 So I choose to help the animals because no one's helping those except cause of war. 1005 00:50:53,456 --> 00:50:54,626 So that's why I support them. 1006 00:50:54,626 --> 00:50:56,156 And besides Ember likes that I do it. 1007 00:50:56,156 --> 00:50:56,426 So. 1008 00:50:58,646 --> 00:51:00,206 I love that you love your little doggy. 1009 00:51:00,206 --> 00:51:01,406 I have my mine isn't here. 1010 00:51:01,466 --> 00:51:02,186 A little foxy. 1011 00:51:02,366 --> 00:51:06,866 Well, I mean, she's a real service animal, so without her, my life would be completely different. 1012 00:51:06,866 --> 00:51:14,716 And she works for me and, and, facilitates a life that makes it easier for me to go out and have a life. 1013 00:51:14,721 --> 00:51:14,896 Yeah. 1014 00:51:15,086 --> 00:51:19,276 Worried about AFib or I'm not worried about the various things that she can detect. 1015 00:51:19,786 --> 00:51:26,921 And so, I used to panic when I was out and I, all of a sudden I'd feel I was going into AFib and I'd panic and mm-hmm. 1016 00:51:26,921 --> 00:51:31,391 I, then we'd have to rush home and now that doesn't happen cuz she tells me in advance what's gonna happen. 1017 00:51:31,571 --> 00:51:33,581 I'm able to medicate, I'm able to calm down. 1018 00:51:33,581 --> 00:51:35,801 I'm able to remove myself from the situation for a moment. 1019 00:51:35,891 --> 00:51:35,981 Mm-hmm. 1020 00:51:36,221 --> 00:51:39,801 So she makes it possible for me to go out into the world more. 1021 00:51:40,161 --> 00:51:43,001 So, it's not just that I love her, it's that. 1022 00:51:43,676 --> 00:51:44,576 She's my partner. 1023 00:51:44,576 --> 00:51:45,886 She's my partner in crime. 1024 00:51:45,886 --> 00:51:48,986 And I'll be devastated when, when she passes. 1025 00:51:48,986 --> 00:51:53,516 But the fact is that these service animals, they do a huge job for us. 1026 00:51:53,856 --> 00:51:59,106 And we see people with them and we, oh, that's not a service animal, or, ah, what kind of service do they do? None of your fucking business. 1027 00:51:59,111 --> 00:52:00,486 That's what kind of service they do. 1028 00:52:00,486 --> 00:52:01,156 None of your business. 1029 00:52:02,276 --> 00:52:08,396 It's amazing how these animals can get tied into our emotions before we know we're having them or, or physical states. 1030 00:52:08,456 --> 00:52:08,486 Oh. 1031 00:52:08,486 --> 00:52:11,246 Well, to our people, they're finding, they now can detect covid. 1032 00:52:11,246 --> 00:52:15,776 They're, they're more accurate to detect breast cancer than the mammograms in Europe. 1033 00:52:15,776 --> 00:52:25,596 Now, while they're using dogs to detect breast cancer when they're searching for whales out at sea, they have dogs that do it now because they can smell whale poop for four miles out at the open sea. 1034 00:52:25,866 --> 00:52:28,986 So before sonar can even pick up whales, dogs can. 1035 00:52:29,226 --> 00:52:29,406 Yeah. 1036 00:52:29,466 --> 00:52:30,961 So yeah, no, they're, they're hu. 1037 00:52:31,111 --> 00:52:34,951 Hugely intelligent, but so are pigs and so are cows. 1038 00:52:35,251 --> 00:52:35,341 Yeah. 1039 00:52:35,341 --> 00:52:37,481 And so I'm not a specious, that's why I'm a vegan. 1040 00:52:37,831 --> 00:52:41,161 I had no idea how how much cows. 1041 00:52:41,996 --> 00:52:44,036 Can be affectionate towards human beings. 1042 00:52:44,036 --> 00:52:45,596 Until I've seen some videos I had. 1043 00:52:45,626 --> 00:52:46,286 No, they mourn. 1044 00:52:46,286 --> 00:52:46,856 They're dead. 1045 00:52:46,856 --> 00:52:48,866 They, they, they mourn, they're dead. 1046 00:52:48,866 --> 00:52:50,786 They, of course, they form bonds with humans. 1047 00:52:50,786 --> 00:52:51,356 They, yeah. 1048 00:52:51,516 --> 00:52:53,906 I, I follow many on Instagram that have accounts. 1049 00:52:53,906 --> 00:52:55,621 Spuds what is it? Spud the bowl. 1050 00:52:55,871 --> 00:52:59,761 He loves to play ball with his human and, oh no, the notion. 1051 00:53:00,771 --> 00:53:02,481 Animals are sentient beings. 1052 00:53:02,481 --> 00:53:02,541 Yeah. 1053 00:53:02,541 --> 00:53:03,651 We act like they're not. 1054 00:53:03,981 --> 00:53:04,161 Right. 1055 00:53:04,161 --> 00:53:04,761 But they are. 1056 00:53:04,761 --> 00:53:05,721 They have emotions. 1057 00:53:05,721 --> 00:53:08,271 They have fe pigs know when they're going to be slaughtered. 1058 00:53:08,361 --> 00:53:08,421 Yeah. 1059 00:53:08,451 --> 00:53:10,311 They know when their babies are being taken. 1060 00:53:10,316 --> 00:53:13,971 Cows are in terror when they're on the way into the slaughterhouse. 1061 00:53:13,976 --> 00:53:14,251 Yeah. 1062 00:53:14,611 --> 00:53:16,856 People eat tortured animals. 1063 00:53:16,856 --> 00:53:16,916 Yeah. 1064 00:53:17,126 --> 00:53:18,926 Because the animals knew they were going to die. 1065 00:53:19,691 --> 00:53:19,931 Right. 1066 00:53:19,931 --> 00:53:19,991 Yeah. 1067 00:53:20,281 --> 00:53:22,811 So, so no, it's not just dogs. 1068 00:53:22,811 --> 00:53:23,561 I love my dog. 1069 00:53:23,561 --> 00:53:24,161 God bless her. 1070 00:53:24,161 --> 00:53:24,221 Yeah. 1071 00:53:24,471 --> 00:53:27,061 But all animals, we need to respect them all. 1072 00:53:27,066 --> 00:53:28,651 I don't even kill insects anymore. 1073 00:53:28,861 --> 00:53:31,741 Nothing should have the death penalty because it meets me. 1074 00:53:31,746 --> 00:53:32,021 Yeah. 1075 00:53:32,341 --> 00:53:32,561 Yes. 1076 00:53:32,621 --> 00:53:38,271 If I see a bug, if I see a spider or if I see a bug roaming around, even a roach, whatever. 1077 00:53:38,331 --> 00:53:45,196 I catch it and throw it outside because it's not up to me to decide if that creature lives or died just because it, it encountered me. 1078 00:53:45,826 --> 00:53:46,136 Yeah. 1079 00:53:46,136 --> 00:53:47,541 So, and the same with food. 1080 00:53:47,546 --> 00:53:50,271 Nothing should have the death penalty because I have to eat. 1081 00:53:50,271 --> 00:53:51,051 That's ridiculous. 1082 00:53:51,081 --> 00:53:52,341 There's other things to eat now. 1083 00:53:52,671 --> 00:53:52,821 Yeah. 1084 00:53:52,821 --> 00:53:58,101 My son and I found a roach the other night and we two nights ago, and we picked it up and put her, put her outside. 1085 00:53:58,301 --> 00:53:58,591 Right. 1086 00:53:58,591 --> 00:54:03,401 That's, I mean, yeah, they're icky and they're gross or whatever, but they don't think we look that cute either. 1087 00:54:04,291 --> 00:54:05,241 So, it's like it. 1088 00:54:05,601 --> 00:54:13,461 I went in the other night and there was one in the sink because they come up through the, it's just natural for animals to come out, bugs to come out of your sewer pipes, Yeah. 1089 00:54:13,461 --> 00:54:15,961 It just ha, it happens to Oprah, it happens to everybody. 1090 00:54:16,201 --> 00:54:16,431 Yep. 1091 00:54:16,431 --> 00:54:20,421 and I saw one in the sink and I got the glass and put it over it and I'm on. 1092 00:54:20,421 --> 00:54:21,681 Now you stand her, that glass bitch. 1093 00:54:21,741 --> 00:54:25,461 I mean, can And so, I took it out to the patio and threw it over. 1094 00:54:25,641 --> 00:54:29,091 Now I do, I do live upstairs, so I do throw them over the patio. 1095 00:54:29,091 --> 00:54:30,411 But bugs, they're fine. 1096 00:54:30,411 --> 00:54:31,191 They drop to the ground. 1097 00:54:31,191 --> 00:54:31,791 They don't die. 1098 00:54:32,031 --> 00:54:32,271 No. 1099 00:54:32,271 --> 00:54:36,441 I'm like, you're gonna, you're gonna go for a little, little short little fly here, and then you're gonna hit the ground. 1100 00:54:36,471 --> 00:54:37,341 Maybe they enjoy it. 1101 00:54:37,341 --> 00:54:39,051 Maybe it's like a rollercoaster, like a thrill ride. 1102 00:54:39,051 --> 00:54:39,791 Maybe that's why they come back. 1103 00:54:40,061 --> 00:54:40,351 Yeah. 1104 00:54:41,201 --> 00:54:43,761 Let's run back up and get the pros out again. 1105 00:54:43,791 --> 00:54:44,751 Yeah, that's exactly right. 1106 00:54:44,901 --> 00:54:45,021 Yeah. 1107 00:54:45,651 --> 00:54:47,271 I've created a bug Disneyland here. 1108 00:54:48,741 --> 00:54:49,311 All right. 1109 00:54:49,701 --> 00:54:50,511 Well, thanks a lot. 1110 00:54:50,871 --> 00:54:51,291 You're welcome. 1111 00:54:51,951 --> 00:54:52,441 Alright. 1112 00:54:52,731 --> 00:54:53,121 Appreciate it. 1113 00:54:53,511 --> 00:54:53,751 Okay. 1114 00:54:53,751 --> 00:54:54,621 See you on the radio. 1115 00:54:54,711 --> 00:54:55,041 Yep. 1116 00:54:55,161 --> 00:54:55,881 Talk to you later. 1117 00:54:59,781 --> 00:55:00,946 Carll is so interesting. 1118 00:55:00,951 --> 00:55:02,176 I'm so glad he was on this show. 1119 00:55:02,176 --> 00:55:04,216 I've been wanting to have him on for a long time. 1120 00:55:04,936 --> 00:55:08,956 Very, very happy that he agreed to be a part of it. 1121 00:55:10,156 --> 00:55:13,606 Hey, if you enjoy this show, please tell your friends. 1122 00:55:14,176 --> 00:55:17,696 Say, Hey, check out Green Room On Air Podcast. 1123 00:55:18,166 --> 00:55:18,496 It's. 1124 00:55:18,826 --> 00:55:20,296 Pretty darned cool. 1125 00:55:21,196 --> 00:55:35,346 Yeah, it, it will help me a lot to have more listeners and I'll have more time and I'll be able to put more effort into having even better programming for you all out there. 1126 00:55:36,126 --> 00:55:46,416 And if you If you can please like, go onto your iPhone and go to the podcast page on the podcast app, and you just go to the bottom and you say, rate this show. 1127 00:55:47,676 --> 00:55:49,536 And you can do that and just gimme some stars. 1128 00:55:49,536 --> 00:55:55,326 And you can even put in a, a description of why you thought it was five stars or not. 1129 00:55:55,456 --> 00:56:03,186 But the more I have of, of those ratings, the more I can put into this. 1130 00:56:04,611 --> 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