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July 7, 2024

From Broadway to Beyond: Lisa Vroman of "Phantom of the Opera" Fame

From Broadway to Beyond: Lisa Vroman of
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Green Room On Air with Ray Renati

Hey friends! I had the absolute pleasure of chatting with the amazing Lisa Vroman. We dove deep into her journey, from her unforgettable years in "Phantom of the Opera" in San Francisco and New York, to her love for teaching and the joy she finds in guiding young artists. She's got such a rich history, even performing with her talented family, and she's still finding new ways to shine on stage.

Lisa also gave us the scoop on the upcoming "Broadway and Beyond" benefit for the Richmond/Ermet Aid Foundation. It's happening on July 14th at the Marines Memorial Theater, and it's set to be a night filled with incredible talent and heartwarming performances, all for a good cause.

Trust me, you won't want to miss this intimate look into Lisa's world and the wonderful community she's part of. Head over to reef-sf.org for more details on the event. Let's support the arts together!

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Chapters

00:09 - Introduction to Teaching at AMDA

01:36 - Balancing Enthusiasm with Technique

02:00 - The Journey of Developing Talent

04:21 - Reflecting on the Impact of Benefit Shows

11:16 - Cherishing Memories from Past Performances

14:56 - The Importance of Supporting Live Arts

17:03 - Nurturing Performance Skills during Pandemic

21:40 - Fond Memories of San Francisco Theater Community

25:28 - Challenges of Balancing Teaching and Performance

27:58 - Looking Forward to Future Performances

29:01 - Excitement for Potential Feinstein’s Performance

Transcript
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Music.

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Well, thank you for coming on, Lisa. Hey. So we were just talking about your

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teaching. What's the school that you teach at?

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It's called AMDA. It's a four-year BFA program in Los Angeles.

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It's a two-year program in New York. But I joined the voice faculty fall of

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2019, and then the pandemic hit.

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Yes. And during that time, I had 26 or 27 students, plus some other people that

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I coach on Zoom, which is why I have this nice microphone.

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Yeah, it sounds great. We kind of set ourselves up with a good camera and a

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good mic, and so I could give the kids a really better experience with me.

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And I have to say, I really love the teaching. My whole family are teachers.

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And even though I've been singing all my life, I just didn't stop and take the time to do it.

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And since being back in person, it's really been unbelievably fun.

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Like I said, the kids are in college. They're artists. They want to be on Broadway. They're singers.

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They're either musical theater or contemporary singers, commercial singers.

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And they just want to learn how to use their voices.

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And it's really fun for me to be with that age group.

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They don't have kids, so it's kind of fun. Yeah. All that enthusiasm.

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Yeah, they have a lot of that. I wish their technique met the enthusiasm.

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Yeah. Well, some of them will take a while to get there, and some of them will get there quickly.

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You know, it's about them respecting themselves and their authenticity,

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and they can see the results after.

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It's not a bunch of tips like you would ask Roger Federer how to be a tennis star.

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And oh he gives you some tips and all of a sudden boom

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you're a star forever you know it takes time and it's

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conditioning and it's it's a craft like anything else and

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i i kind of say it's sort of like being an athlete

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you have to keep that pace and that training is your

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body's different every day you're maturing they're not mature yet they have

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certain layers of instability physically that won't kind of meld until they're

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26 27 their bodies and their mucous membrane system are all changing and right

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and then they'll have a good 40 years before it gets unstable again so i.

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Want them to be i want them to be

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as prepped and proud of them their work as possible yeah

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it's been really great for me i've loved it i've loved it so great to

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talk to you because i'm here in the bay area and i know you've been

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here a lot and i lived there a long time i know

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and i don't think we ever met or anything i did know

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you in phantom which i loved yeah i think

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i i knew some other people in the show John you

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know John Monagro yes John Monagro

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yes I was in a show with

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him oh John's the best they're all they're just it was a great company of

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people I love them you know they it was

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a beautiful five years with with people who really cared about the show everybody

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worked hard every day and it was some shows get old and people get tired of

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it but we couldn't afford that in in San Francisco so I well it was such a huge

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hit here oh we just had a ball. It was a great, and it went by.

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Like in a flash. I know. I remember. All of a sudden it's over.

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And it was just always sold out for five years or is that what it was? Five years?

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Yeah. Five. Yeah. Five years. Well, wow.

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What a great treat that was. And a great run. You know, I bought a home after

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that and I was, I'm forever grateful to that long-term show, you know? Yeah.

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I just, it's in, I'm in Pasadena.

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And right after that, I went back to New York for another kind of three and a half years.

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So. And you did some shows on Broadway in New York?

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Yeah, I did Phantom for another three years. Oh, you did it?

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I didn't know you did it in New York. Yeah, I bought my home after Phantom closed

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in San Francisco and Pasadena, and I'm sitting there, and the phone rings.

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And of course, you're still in kind of a loop of the role of the girls who do it.

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And they wanted me to go to London, and I said, no, I just got a house, and I have a puppy.

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And it was too much. I was in boxes still.

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But and i said no and i i was like

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gosh maybe that's it you know you don't know if they're gonna call again

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and yeah literally a month later they called and

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said both girls in new york are pregnant can you come and i

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went i'm in so because after that much

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time i i did the tour a little bit before that after five or

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six years in a show in a role you kind of want the payoff of doing

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it on broadway yeah so so what

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was it like what was it like going from san francisco to broadway

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was that your first broadway show no i did aspects of love before

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oh so you oh so you're old hat yeah i did lame

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is for three years and in the middle of it i did the the uh new

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broadway premiere of aspects of love yeah i

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lived in new york a long time i actually moved out of new york to come to

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san francisco and do uh phantom oh i

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didn't know that oh yeah i thought you were from here okay no well it

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felt like you were from here i think a lot of people thought it was like my hometown doesn't

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it yeah i think a lot of people assumed it was they

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do my cell phone is still 415 so i think people think

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that i that i live there still yeah i think

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a lot of people probably think you still do but i

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did i don't know why like the ghost of phantom past here so so what's the show

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that you have coming up here we are doing the 30th anniversary of help us on

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the way the richmond ermite you know benefit that that started a very long time

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ago and i was there at the the beginning,

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because I was in San Francisco, those were the years, the 90s,

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when we were all in San Francisco together.

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With Ken Henderson and Joe Seiler, and we just, they become dear,

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dear friends of mine, like my family, and I've been in so many of them,

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you know, over 25 of them, I'm pretty sure,

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that, you know, like, everybody that comes back to it feels like your family

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again, in San Francisco, and the, when we started doing them, I, I,

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couldn't get enough of it every year because it was

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a night off from doing the same show over and over again and a

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night where everybody did one song and we were backstage together

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enjoying each other's company and artistry and it was

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glorious it was a glorious time and i and

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singing music that you didn't normally get to so i am

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so it's like a cabaret format it's yeah

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everybody comes in and does one thing you know they kind of get up and

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do a number and you hope it's early so you can go have a drink right away yeah

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that's what i love about doing cabaret type shows yeah it's so it's so much

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it's so much fun it's actually it's so much easier than doing an entire musical

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that's for sure you think and it's just and people are so.

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Receptive and warm and it's just a great environment it's a fun thing and you

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just feel like you can be yourself i mean i i recently just did a one-person

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show and I won the New York Bistro Award for it this year. Did you write it?

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I did. My husband and I put it together. Good for you. And it's music?

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As my friends call it, they call it Intro to Lisa 101.

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Oh, nice. So I mean, I did it in the Green Room 42 in New York a year ago and

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then I just did it Easter weekend again and then April 1st was the Bistro Awards

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that they told me I was getting an award for the show.

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Well, congratulations. Yeah, that was fun. on i mean i

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said does it mean something goes oh are you going to be a cabaret singer now and

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i said i don't know i find it a lot of pressure but really

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really fun to do i love telling the

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stories that you're not going to know you know they're you know they're even

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my friends who had known me for years said i hadn't heard half of the things

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that you were telling me i just because you're revealing things about your childhood

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and family and little stories fun stories that have happened along the way and

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there's i mean there's 40 years of it so there's plenty of good stuff,

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yeah it was from i have to wait till some people probably pass

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away to tell some of it but you know it's that'll be

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part two yeah that's the problem with writing a an autobiographical show or

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a memoir or something it's like what can you get away with you know what if

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they read it yeah yeah it's uh it's yeah but you know it's it's uh it was great

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fun and i have a couple of pianists one

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on the East Coast, one of the West Coast that I've worked with. I did the show out here.

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Last summer too and there's a lot of there's a great arts community out here and down here in la,

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also and it's been you know even though i'm teaching and still i'm still traveling

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a lot doing concerts so the time to book like a show take off five or six weeks is kind of difficult,

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at times but you know there's still some shows

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like a couple of shows i'd like to do if they find me

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that'll be great what would those be i i mean the the

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top of the list would have to be like the piazza i've

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always wanted to play margaret oh i love that so i'm just putting

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it out there i'm waiting for somebody to uh you'd be

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great in that i love that yeah it just

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it suits me now it seems like people aren't doing

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that as much as they used to used to say they should yeah the music's glory

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it's it but it's no joke it's really difficult and the it's not only the italian

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and the language but the music is very complicated and beautiful and so you

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really have I'd have a cast of pretty tight musicians that can then handle it.

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But it's a beautiful show.

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And I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

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I think there always should be a bucket list, right? Oh, for sure.

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People ask me if I'm going to retire. I'm like, I don't know.

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What does that mean, really? What do we do? I mean, it changes.

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What you want to do changes, but you can't ever really.

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It's hard to retire from this, I would say. Well, you know, your voice will

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tell you what it wants to do.

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I mean, my voice still works for me very well because I trained well.

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I went to MFA, was in voice performance and was in kind of the opera world out of grad school.

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And I just had a good technique and I've always been a crossover singer and I've taken care of it.

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But I think I was, I came into Phantom a little older, so my voice was really

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settled in a place where it could withstand that role for a number of years

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and not hurt it or damage it.

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Or it was, you know, I was ready for it at that time.

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And I've seen it with singers who didn't have that all together that do some damage.

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And maybe they weren't old enough or mature enough to, because it's not easy

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singing and you're singing every day. You have to be that kind of an athlete, I think.

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Yeah, it's the everyday thing. And sometimes twice a day, they can really take

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a toll on you, I think. It does.

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And yet it's over and you're thinking, you know, where did the time flew?

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Like I said, and I loved, I'm glad it was San Francisco. I love that city.

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I have so many dear friends there.

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Joe and Ken actually just sent me a video of one of the first.

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Benefits that I did with them almost 30 years ago

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and my mom who has passed away now was visiting me with my stepfather they were

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both choral music educators and they came out to see phantom for the weekend

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I was doing the benefit so I said hey you want to come and play for me you know

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and so my second song I invited her up and I introduced her as my my high school

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and junior high music teacher,

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oh and then she walked up and everybody started giggling because we

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are kind of carbon copies so i said oh

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it's mother's day oh mrs gage is also my mom you

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know kind of and i i don't have any videos of

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my mother we weren't a video family have a lot of pictures yeah so i have a

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video of her and i performing together and then we did an interview backstage

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after for like oh you're like three four four or five minutes and it's both

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of us standing there and talking with each other and And I'm telling you,

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it just makes me cry just to think of that. I'm so happy I have it.

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Well, that's wonderful. Yeah, it's great. Those kind of things are.

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But that's what this benefit kind of means to me. And I'm going to be back with

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some incredible talent on this one yet again. Yes. We are.

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Yes. People will. I mean, Rob McClure, who is starring in Mrs.

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Doubtfire, for one, if you hear anything about him, the guy's a superstar. I can't wait to hear him.

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Do his thing but there are just bruce falange is there again paula west sam

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harris who i've met i've met all these people doing this benefit so it's kind of,

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yeah yeah david burnham and faith prince and debbie

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boone jennifer lee warren let me think who

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else oh jason brock who's back from japan lived

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there for a while but a bay area singer wonderful talent so i

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mean all these people i've known for all these years because of

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this benefit of it so i'm it's kind of like coming home a

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little bit too yeah well i

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sort of know faith prince i mean uh i did a while back she i went backstage

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when she did there was a play here in act that didn't the tales of the city

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music oh yeah yeah yeah that was fun didn't take off i enjoyed it a lot yeah

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i heard people loved it but they yeah they um,

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Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Things kind of go. It just depends whether

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they think it's going to make it in New York or not. Yeah.

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And New York is another banana. It's all about the money, if they can sell it.

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Yeah, it's all about the profit. Yeah.

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That's not really what's going on too much in San Francisco,

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except for the touring companies.

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Yeah. So I feel the pandemic really put

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its stamp on the Bay Area you and people sustaining and staying afloat and alive

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and it's affected opera companies and symphonies all every arts organization

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so uh it's been hard i had to leave the union myself really i just couldn't

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get anything anymore and i felt like i wanted to do stuff so,

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and you were limited i'm not sure if i made the right decision but i did a couple

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plays non-union and at least i got to do something could you go back i just

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wrote them an email asking Yeah.

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I mean, I can't imagine that they wouldn't because they know that this is affecting everyone.

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the time, should I join the union?

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Should I not? I'm like, why don't you not for a while and go get some experience?

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Because most of the tours on the road are all non-union now. Oh, I know.

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There's a big Peter Pan tour here at San Jose Center of Performing Arts, which is huge.

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Yeah. It's the one that Lonnie Price directed. Yeah. It's the one Lonnie Price directed.

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can't believe yeah so i tell them why

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don't you go work see what you can get and work

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work work and don't join the union and without any experience first well

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decent wages yeah oh yeah so they're competing

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with the union in that sense yeah i know you

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don't get the benefits fits but yeah yeah

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i don't know things are changing or protections or protections

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which is important we just have to keep live art arts alive yeah gotta go with

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the flow and keep it alive i live in la but i don't i love movies and tv but

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that's not my industry my industry is that live experience which we we we have

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witnessed and experienced how it can be so quickly taken

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away oh because of the live like the pandemic

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right yeah it could and it can happen again it can happen if

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someone doesn't support the arts and we have to still struggling most theaters

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are still struggling to get an audience back since then right just people have

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become complacent and stay home yeah and they lost so many subscribers yeah

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almost every theater yep yeah because if people aren't putting their money in

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it uh it's it's you know it's hard but I can't give up.

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No, there's no, yeah, I know. I, well, I don't think, I don't think live theater,

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live performance will ever go away.

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I mean, people are going to, it's part of human nature. Right. Yeah.

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when you sing and we sing live for each other we are

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like the wave of second responders you know

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you can watch a movie you love and that's that certainly helps but when someone's

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in front of you and they are this their your sound is hitting their body and

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their their ears there's nothing like it it's it's a sensory you know overload

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and and there's There's a vibrational thing that goes on. It's helpful.

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It'll, I think it'll save the world. So I'm, I'm all, you know,

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I want music education to just

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be completely supported everywhere and the kids to get the experience.

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And I just tell them, I want them to get up during the pandemic.

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They had nowhere to perform.

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sing because they hadn't exercised that, that, that technique of getting up

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the performance energy and that, that, that bit of the craft,

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they, and they were scared to death emotionally.

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going i can't do this i can't do this you know they just hadn't been

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able to exercise it at 18 to

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19 plus they grow up in a time where you know

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because of you know that your social media

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everything has to be you're

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perfect all the time or you have

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to or it'll be on social media forever and you'll

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have to live with that i mean it's we didn't have have to do

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that growing up in our era so i we're at which i'm grateful for you could make

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mistakes you you and you should be able to make mistakes you should you should

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singing every day yeah just we're not an ai product we're we're human you know and thank god still.

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Yeah for the for the moment for the moment

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we're still apparently that might change from what

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they how do i know you're not a robot no how do

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you know i'm not an alien i was watching the show resident alien

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on tv it was about have you seen it oh my god

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i love it it's one of our favorite things i love

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it so how do you say his last name how do you say his name what's

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his last name oh forget about everybody go

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go see every minute of resident alien it

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is it is a piece of genius it's so funny

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yeah it's moving and everything's such a great show

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it's it's from beginning to end it was beautifully written and

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it's so kind-hearted too yeah it's like it's good family entertainment his adopting

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the 14 year old sensibility you know with the child how they banter just it

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i couldn't get enough of it and it's like he's it's like he's so uncomfortable

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in his own body all the time.

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But they just put so many... I'm just going to look it up.

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Resident alien because i i

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have to cast oh alan

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to to dick to dick yeah that's his name t-u-d-y-k

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yeah oh my god people apparently a lot of people a lot of people have known

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about him before i i didn't know he was in other shows that were really good

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like firefly voiceover stuff for characters too oh i'm sure yeah the guy's he's

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brilliant though i i i want to you You know what I love the most?

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If you watch the show and you look on the periphery sometimes,

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some of the actors will start laughing. Oh, yeah.

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And the editors leave it in for like a split second. Yeah, they can't hold it together with him.

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Or the woman who plays the main character. I forget her name.

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Yeah, Sarah. Is that her name? Once in a while, she'll start. Asta.

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Yeah, Asta. She'll start laughing at the actor. And they'll leave it in.

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The editors will leave it in for just a split second you

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know they're doing it on purpose yeah sarah tomko and

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like cory cory reynolds who plays sheriff mike oh god

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oh my god he's great well they're

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all great i mean the entire elizabeth bowen

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who is the other agent i mean the yeah oh she's fun

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everyone in it is so good that i i it looks like

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they're just having so much fun yeah i think i

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think they get along really well you can just feel the chemistry through

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this oh my god they know they have a good show so i'm yeah so that helps that

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we we were sad when that when we finished the season it was that it was over

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i have a little ways to go yet so don't tell me the end i won't tell you i'm

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not saying anything because it just it keeps getting better.

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that where they they start off a little unsure of what

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they're about and then you know episode after episode

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it just gets better and better right and you can tell

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that so are we going to see you with this benefit i'm going to be there for

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sure let's see find me okay find me

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find me and and the benefit is to support to support hiv programs hunger programs

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and youth programs their small emergency emergency grants program all right

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yes but project open hand which is incredible and yes i came to know that group

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when i was in san francisco and a lot of sponsors no it's an It's an incredible,

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incredible gift to the Bay Area, this thing.

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And Joe and Ken have been completely devoted to this.

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For years and years and all the people that have come through it and that i've

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known like i said it was it was a such a relief from the and the phantom company

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a lot of them joined all the time they said it was such a great night for our

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for our san francisco community.

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And i'm still friends with a lot of them so that that's a it's a great thing

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to get up there it feels like it was sort of my second home for a while so i

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miss it yeah i do and these are really

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great programs that they're giving to here so you're really supporting a lot

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of people who need help if you if you attend the reef and you're going to see

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the next group of you know broadway talent that are cast and mrs.

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Yes this talent is incredible yeah the

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what yeah the talent is just fantastic yeah yeah

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these kids are going to be able to you

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know you're on tour and you're doing the same show all

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the time and now they get to get up and dress up look pretty

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and get up and do something else that they

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love so that's that's kind of a i love

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watching them do that the last one i did was with the les mis company and get

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this that company had in it a cover for cosette and fontaine and she was maybe

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23 24 and her mom and dad and i were in phantom together in new york Oh, wow.

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And there she is. And her dad was, and we were, I was on the Les Mis,

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this particular, a tour of Les Mis originally.

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It started in 88. And so, and her dad was in that company for a while.

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So, I mean, I've known her since she was a baby.

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So, needless to say, we took a lot of pictures together and sent it to her parents.

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But I thought, oh, my God, my friend's children are now doing what we did.

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They're on tour and out of college. And they want musical theater.

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She comes by it rightly. Both of her parents are superstars. So that was...

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Helps a little bit. To have the influence of that. It's pretty cool.

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So I was looking here. We have Jason Brock from...

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On the poster from the X Factor, David Burnham.

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Yeah, Jason lives in San Francisco. He was in Japan for the last three or four years. Oh.

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And he's immersed himself and lived there. David Burnham, I just sang with here in Pasadena.

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We've sung a million concerts together. And, of course, Sam Harris, superstar.

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Yeah. Started it all, Faith.

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Jennifer Lee Warren, who was out of control, talented. Yeah.

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Paula West, who is, you know, our San Francisco, you know. Yes.

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Star, star, star, star. But she sings all over the place. She's great.

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And you have Bruce Valanche for the comedy. He is hilarious.

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He's been in the show. Yeah, I know. He's a lot. And he's perfect and he's brilliant

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and he's unbelievably funny.

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And anyone who watched Hollywood stars in the 70s, you'll know who he is. I did.

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And then there's you, Broadway star. Look at that.

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She used to be somebody i'm saying no it's

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it's that it's gonna we're gonna have a ball be funny michael orland

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is the music director who was with american idol originally it's md and he is

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just he works with everybody and he's wow the best that's a tough job being

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the musical director on american idol wow i think he did originally and i hope

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i don't i give his bio correctly but he's worked with everyone and he's he's

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a big deal and he's a wonderful man,

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Actually, I don't watch American Idol anymore, but when I did,

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that was the thing I was most impressed with, was getting all that music together

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and making the performances something that people enjoyed.

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And when you had no time at all. The weekly.

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Yeah, incredible. Yeah. Just an incredible feat. I mean, wow.

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You look at the kids, they're young. They can memorize things very quickly. I know. I know.

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I remember those days. A few years ago, I did Maria Callas and the Masterclass and the play.

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And it's basically a one-woman show. And I'm telling you, I was like, oh, my God. I know.

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Can I memorize this? And I found that I could, and it felt good.

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And I realized I was oddly calm the opening night.

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And I thought, gosh, I don't really feel the same kind of nervousness that I

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usually do. do, but I realized it's because I didn't have to sing any high notes. Oh.

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I thought, all I have to do is talk. This is easy. No, I'm just kidding.

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That's a great show. I love that show. I loved it. I had a great time doing

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that. I'd love to do that again.

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I just finished the first draft of a one-man show.

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I had a great-grand-uncle who came here from Italy to become a big movie singing star in New York.

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Oh. And he was in a Broadway show when he was like 30 and then never again.

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And he wrote his memoir and he published it in Italy.

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And I wrote a one-man show based on that. And so it's going to have music. Oh, what was the show?

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Well, I haven't. I'm just writing it. It's called The Singing Janitor right now. Oh.

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Oh. Yeah.

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Anyway, I just thought I'd share that with you. No, that's great.

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Yeah. I love real stories.

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So broadway and beyond this this uh

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july 14th 7 30 p.m at

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marines memorial theater yeah you have got

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a great space do you have the you have the info i do

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i'll put it all in the notes yeah yeah i

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don't have that address at the top of

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my head oh for the website yeah yeah

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i have it here okay the website is www probably

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don't have to put that but a reef r-e-a-f f

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as in frank yeah f as in frank dash s-f as in frank dot org reef dash s-f dot

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org yeah it's a richmond agreement aids foundation yes yeah great yeah oh so

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that'll be great it's It's going to be a really, really fun night.

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And getting back to San Francisco, as I've told you, I don't get to do it enough anymore.

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Yeah. Well, maybe we can see you more often.

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I would love to, but doing the teaching kind of keeps you on a regular schedule.

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Oh, right. So I really, and I love it.

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I don't want to give it up, but I didn't think I'd sing this much this late.

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And so the juggle around the concert travel has been a lot.

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The spring was just almost killed me. So I thought I'm trying to do it all,

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but someone's going to have to give at some point. But for now.

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How about if you do a show at the Raz Room?

426
00:28:41,776 --> 00:28:44,116
At the Raz Room? I don't know the Raz Room. I mean, not Raz Room.

427
00:28:44,676 --> 00:28:47,496
Feinstein's. Feinstein's. I've done that before, and it'd be fun to do it again.

428
00:28:48,336 --> 00:28:50,416
Yeah. I could see about that.

429
00:28:51,676 --> 00:28:57,076
I'm for it. You got my vote. Okay. I'll be there. I've sold one ticket.

430
00:28:58,956 --> 00:29:01,836
I've sold one ticket. Yay. I'm in.

431
00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:05,016
I'm in. yeah it'd be fun to come up there and do that again uh it

432
00:29:05,016 --> 00:29:07,996
used to be called the razz room i keep forgetting it's

433
00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:11,016
feinstein yeah feinstein's is a great space oh yeah

434
00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:13,976
i just i just videoed a show there last week

435
00:29:13,976 --> 00:29:17,136
sean two weeks ago sean patrick murtaugh

436
00:29:17,136 --> 00:29:20,236
i don't know yeah i know sean i think sean and i met doing this benefit

437
00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:23,236
also there you go years ago i

438
00:29:23,236 --> 00:29:26,236
just i just i just did i just videoed his show which was

439
00:29:26,236 --> 00:29:30,196
a tribute to the divas of feinstein sonheim yeah

440
00:29:30,196 --> 00:29:33,716
i saw that yeah but he i said

441
00:29:33,716 --> 00:29:36,756
these are you know if if it's been so

442
00:29:36,756 --> 00:29:39,596
many years doing this that that everyone's come through this benefit at

443
00:29:39,596 --> 00:29:42,356
some point or another yeah that's um that's a

444
00:29:42,356 --> 00:29:46,296
good thing yeah yeah i'll maybe you you probably know carly my friend carly

445
00:29:46,296 --> 00:29:53,296
ozard too i do yeah i do hey carly let's do shout out she's like my best pal

446
00:29:53,296 --> 00:30:01,596
amazing talent amazing voice yeah lover of lover of animals which we love Yes, we do.

447
00:30:02,936 --> 00:30:07,756
Yeah, she's like, you know, truly, her voice is like a precious gem.

448
00:30:08,076 --> 00:30:09,896
There's not a lot of people with her voice type.

449
00:30:10,656 --> 00:30:13,296
No, there aren't. People don't, they don't write for it. They don't know what

450
00:30:13,296 --> 00:30:15,996
to do with it. But I have a student that is a true contralto,

451
00:30:16,176 --> 00:30:18,636
you know, big dark mezzo.

452
00:30:18,856 --> 00:30:22,596
And it's hard. And she goes, well, there's not a lot of roles in musical theater.

453
00:30:22,676 --> 00:30:24,776
I said, so we're going to have to find you where you fit.

454
00:30:24,996 --> 00:30:28,216
Get people to write for you. one thing that they found that she fits well in

455
00:30:28,216 --> 00:30:32,996
is dance club dance music oh yeah yeah yeah,

456
00:30:33,496 --> 00:30:36,696
she's done a bunch of that because she has that big voice they can like fill

457
00:30:36,696 --> 00:30:41,676
in the background right but she's done some uh lamplighter stuff the gns recently

458
00:30:41,676 --> 00:30:47,756
yeah been she's been fantastic with them oh i love it she's incredible so i'm

459
00:30:47,756 --> 00:30:50,976
perfect for that perfect yeah yeah it's so much

460
00:30:51,076 --> 00:30:57,096
that is so much fun also yeah yeah the gilbert and sullivan oh stuff it's great

461
00:30:57,096 --> 00:30:59,916
it's it's so funny you would you would swear it was current.

462
00:31:01,059 --> 00:31:07,219
I know, and it's so old. Yeah, I am. It's so old. The 1880s or something? I know.

463
00:31:07,879 --> 00:31:10,839
Yeah. Hey, I have to teach a little lesson. Well, thank you, Lisa.

464
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,419
I have to teach it at three, so I have like six minutes. Oh,

465
00:31:14,499 --> 00:31:17,579
gosh. Okay, I'll let you go. We'll see you at the Reef. I'll be there.

466
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:21,279
Please do. Yeah, I'll come back and see you. Reef. Doing some.

467
00:31:21,879 --> 00:31:25,119
Zoom doesn't really like our singing lessons, but there's a lot of things you

468
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:28,599
can do as far as sharing and listening and self-taping and back and forth.

469
00:31:28,639 --> 00:31:32,039
We did a lot of that. but nothing like being in person and really hearing the

470
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:36,339
voice but we do what we can and we have to so it's yes at least we have the

471
00:31:36,339 --> 00:31:41,519
zoom so it's that's good yeah so reef.sf.org to go get all the information about

472
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:46,799
the benefit yeah there's there's a very few of the great tickets left.

473
00:31:48,219 --> 00:31:51,519
So there's not a bad there's really not a bad seat anyway so

474
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,979
yeah it's a great it's a great space it's a great space it's all sorts of fun

475
00:31:56,979 --> 00:32:01,719
how many times have i sung there millions so i'm i'm digging it it's called

476
00:32:01,719 --> 00:32:03,479
broadway and beyond probably beyond

477
00:32:03,479 --> 00:32:11,459
all right square thanks ray thank you thanks so much okay okay bye bye.