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Green Room On Air. Green Room On Air. The podcast that takes you beyond the
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velvet earth and into the pulsating heart of the entertaining world.
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Music.
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Hello friends, you have reached Green Room On Air and I am your host Ray Vernotti.
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It's so good to see you again.
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It's been a little while since I've been here in the Green Room.
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I've been pretty darned busy.
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I got the COVID again, which was an interesting experience, which I've gotten
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over, but it left me with a little insomnia.
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But I'm keeping on, keeping on.
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Hey, today, we have a great guest for you. Her name is Abigail Munn.
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She's been on this show a few times in the past.
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And she's on again today. And we're going to have a little tour of the backstage
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of her circus, which is called Circus Bella.
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Abigail has been the director and ringmaster of Circus Bella for many years.
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She is a longtime circus professional here in San Francisco and a good friend of the Green Room.
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And I'm so happy she's going to be here today in a couple of minutes for you
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to listen to or watch, depending on whether you're on the podcast or watching on YouTube.
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For those who are interested I'm in a show right now it's called Truce,
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and it's at City Lights Theater in San Jose we have one weekend left we close
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on the 22nd of December Sunday,
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it's a very moving show to play with music it's been very well received by the
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audiences got a great review in the San Jose Mercury News and so I think that you will love it.
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It's again at the City Lights Theatre.
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In san jose california just search city lights theater san jose california if
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you're interested in going and the play is called truce it's about it's a true story about when,
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a german battalion and a british battalion in the trenches of world war one
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stopped fighting to celebrate christmas together and it's about a lot more than
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that also it's about relationships between men and women during that time and
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a whole lot of other things like parental.
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Relationships to the soldiers and other
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stuff and i think you'll like it so check that out but
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now let's get on to
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my conversation with the fantabulous abigail
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munn the director and ringmaster of circus bella and before that let me just
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let you know that they have a new show out and it's called kaleidoscope it opened
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last weekend and it will continue through january 5th,
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it's a it's a tent circus with clowns and all kinds of people doing amazing physical stuff,
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that seems impossible but will leave your mind blown kaleidoscope a winter big
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top spectacular through January 5th.
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You can get your tickets at circusbella.org.
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That's circus, C-I-R-C-U-S, Bella, B-E-L-L-A.org.
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Circusbella.org, kaleidoscope. And our guest is Abigail Munn.
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others that are out there all right folks without any further ado,
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i bring you abigail munn so when you say you're at the circus what does that mean,
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Well, I'm backstage at the circus right now.
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I'm showing you, I guess this is a podcast so you can't see,
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but here's some clown shoes. Whoa, clown shoes.
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They're orange and red and yellow and huge. They're orange and they're actually
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specially made in Mexico, custom made in Mexico for our clown.
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So by a Mexican clown shoe maker.
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Well if you're gonna get clown shoes that's the way to do
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it i guess it's the only way yes so
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is this your tent that you're at or or so
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this is this is our tent we're getting ready for
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the our winter show kaleidoscope no which
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we open on december 13th and we
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will run through january 5th and we're down at the cross and at
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east cut we're excited is this
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your third time doing this with the tent so this
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is our third time doing it with the tent and our second time in this location
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so we were here last year at this time
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yeah so and then
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the other year before that we were in treasure yeah so yeah
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there's lots on at all times here well this
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is probably a better location than treasure island isn't it there's
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less wind different we like treasure less wind oh and we're in such a central
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downtown amazing location you know there's it's really fun we're right in the
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middle of the city which i love yes it's it's a beautiful area there.
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Yeah what's it called the east cut what's the crossing at east cut so it's this kind of
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newish neighborhood it used to be called rincon hill and
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now it's the cross scene at east cut and it's really amazing
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densely populated really lots
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of different kinds of people living here in this very urban setting yeah i grew
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up in san francisco it looks all new and weird but i think it's pretty cool
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yeah because well like when we were growing up there that was all just warehouses and things.
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Like that, right? Yeah. Now it's a lively urban area, as you say. Yeah, it's beautiful.
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So what are some of the acts you're going to have during this Christmas time in your kaleidoscope?
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So we have kaleidoscope. kaleidoscope we
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have this year a beautiful slack
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rope walker whose name is esther de
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monte flores and she balances on
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a rope so there's tight rope that's not what we're doing it's loose it's a loose
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rope and she's a beautiful dancer moving balancer on this rope we have eric
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allen and he's here from san diego and he stacks he's stacking a bazillion chairs
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and he's going and doing handstands on all the tops of all these chairs.
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That's going to be really fun. And then we have aerialists, Dora Galilea and
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Veronica Blair, Circus Bella favorites.
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We have our clown trio and they've been working on some new material. They're very funny.
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We brought in our favorite, we brought in this amazing clown coach,
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Michelle Matlock, and she came in and worked with the clown.
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And so they've been working hard all weekend where it's hard to be funny.
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And then of course there's the circus Bella, our band. We cannot forget about
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our amazing, amazing, amazing band.
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Yes. So tell me why the band is so important to you.
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I think it's like, we're in live in a live theater and anything can happen.
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And the band is working with the artists and the artists are working with the
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band and we have all of our music has been specially written for the show.
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So it's just like amazing.
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I don't know, it's just like, it's, I don't know, our band for us,
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I was just talking with one of our artists.
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It's like they're just they're so much a part this live
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music is so much a part of our show and what's fun here
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in the tent is we actually put the band up high i'm
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just going here maybe it'll be a little bit better reception that's actually
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cool because i can have the video for this too and so some people will be able
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to see it if you if it's okay yeah yeah should we go outside and yeah sure but
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i think it's super fun because the band oh wow the band is part of,
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who we are as in fact we can even go we're going to
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take a little tour this is a this is our first interactive interview
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i'm trying to take it up i love it we can
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take a look at the bandstand here so we're gonna yeah and we can kind of take
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a little tour of the tent here we are inside the tent and people are rehearsing
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and people were kind of still setting up and then if you see over here we have
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the oh there's someone there there's people are kind of working I mean,
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that's where the band's going to be up there. Oh, neat.
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So they're on a platform. Yeah, they're up on a platform. So they're above.
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The curtain's not hung yet, but the artists will come out this curtain.
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And the band is kind of up in their own.
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Space oh cool can we talk to some of the the artists there sure i'm recording a podcast,
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does anybody with anyone want to be that podcast that's
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great so this is this is it's called green room with ray renati
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and it's a local theater podcast and this
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is awesome this is we're doing this very impromptu right
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now so this is ori quesada
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and he's a beloved member of the circus hello hello
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unique and unusual rollabola act
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so do you want to you can talk yeah sure tell me about your
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act yeah so i do a rollabola act
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but my style rollabola it's it's a lot more traditional chinese acrobatic style
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that was like my background is in chinese acrobatics so i'm balancing metal
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a metal bowl on my head and i put metal bowls on the edge of a longer rollabola
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board as i'm bouncing it and I them onto my head.
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So I throughout my act, I stack up and then I do like a cup and a spoon and
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everything. So yeah. Wow.
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How does one decide to get into that? That's incredible.
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It's a good question. So basically I'm, I'm from the city. I'm from San Francisco
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and my family's from here.
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And I started training when I
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was like seven years old here in San francisco and it
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just so happens that the main teachers
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at the circus school here were formerly part of
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the nanjing acrobatic troop in china and so
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i yeah i like did a summer camp and then was asked to start training and yeah
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trained from like 7 to 18 in chinese acrobatics and performed with their their
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youth circus it was like an acrobatic troop so yeah so like a lot of those things yeah.
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They take a lot of those, those things that take so much skill,
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you have to start when you're young and sounds like you did.
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Kinda. Yeah. Yeah. I started training this act when I was like about like 16.
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So I had been training for like almost 10 years, just in kind of everything.
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When you do acrobatics, kind of do a little bit of everything,
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but this act was specifically given to me the solo act that I've been doing just forever.
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Nice. Yeah.
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And what is your name again? I couldn't hear. My name's Ori.
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O-R-I. Oh. Quesada. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks.
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Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing that. I'm not exactly sure what it is,
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but I think I got it. Yeah.
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Awesome. This is fun. All right.
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I think everyone else is kind of working. We've got lights and sound going up.
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And then we have, if you go over, you can't really see there's a contortionist.
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I see that. with her coach in the back i do
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see her yeah wow and we're
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doing rigging and things so we'll go back out of this kind
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of loud in here but that's fun this is fun little welcome
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to the backstage lot of circus bella yeah oh
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this is exciting yeah now you
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only have one animal right which is your dog we have
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the dog the dog will be doing pre-show at
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some events so but yeah
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finley the dog is isn't has been in rehearsals every day and
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ready to go so so how how much are
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you able to rehearse the whole for how long are you able to
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rehearse in the tent there not enough
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so we start rehearsals a couple weeks prior at our rehearsal space in oakland
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and then we're about we're able to rehearse for about a week in the tent before
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the show goes up i mean that's what's sort of i think unusual about circus compared
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to other theaters like we are building this village.
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Yeah you're actually building the theater so
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we're we start from scratch bear a lot and then put up the space and then put
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up the lights and then put up everything you know it's that's i think what's
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sort of magical is we're really creating the whole venue not just going into
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a venue we're really making we make the whole we're making build the whole space ourselves,
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Yeah, that's a big commitment. It's redonkulous.
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I have, you know, I'm often I'm like in the middle of the night.
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I'm like, what am I? There's this moment, too.
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I always have like that when the trucks are about to arrive and you're like,
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make it. What have I done?
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Make it stop. I can't.
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Oh, here we go. But the show is really great. And the cast is gorgeous.
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And and this year we're building a little bit. What's great is this is the second
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year in the same location.
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And there's some things about the show that we're sort of taking last year.
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I keep saying Kaleidoscope 2024 is like 2023, but better.
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So, you know, there's things that I wanted to change that we were,
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you know, once a show goes up, you're kind of there.
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I mean, you can make minor tweaks, but sort of making some larger shifts,
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knowing more about the space and the venue and all the things.
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So, and then some of the acts are different just because life happens in.
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And so, so is there a theme to the show or is it, or the acts just sort of all
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put together in a wonderful way or is there like a.
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I would say it's more of the B. I mean, I think it's to me,
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what this show is about is kind of sort of celebrating the beauty and the pictures
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that we all make together on the stage kind of like a kaleidoscope it's like,
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i don't know it's sort of there's not it's not a real story yeah and there is
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definitely thought about the journey that we're going to take you on and it's
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not going to be like it's very narrative story but i think.
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I try very hard to make sure, you know, and actually even musically,
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we're going to take you different kind of emotions, feelings, textures, colors,
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you know, big groups acts where we really, I swear we can't fit one more person
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on the stage to a solo performer by themselves in the ring, kind of having that experience.
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And so there's, you kind of run the whole thing and there's funny, goofy things.
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And then there's, yeah, more, more, uh, I don't know, emotional parts of the show.
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And the music can really punctuate the different.
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Yeah. Well, that's, we actually, it's sort of Rob and I always think about when
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we're working the score, like how, what is this kind of journey?
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Like, you know, when you listen to an album, maybe it's not necessarily a story,
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but it kind of all fits. I mean, we don't listen to albums anymore, but I try to.
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I do. I have my record player. right here and i listen to my like there was
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like off in a wonderful album there's an intention of the journey it goes through
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and i we kind of we do that same thing great great have you had any.
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Interesting challenges this year and getting this going this has been blessed
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like we had every interesting challenge that you can imagine last year and so this year has been,
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really, I mean, it's tech week is tech week, but it's been pretty smooth sailing,
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but that's, it's only because we've done our time. Let me tell you about last year.
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I think we didn't have one thing go right.
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We're just swimming uphill the whole time. And so here, you know,
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it's been some long days, but we're kind of like feeling a little nervous.
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It's like, this is all going too well so but it's you
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know it's we're still standing by for an interesting challenge
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to occur and but we've been we've been amazingly on
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schedule the whole time which is i cannot
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say that the last year like the interesting challenge i'll
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share last year's interesting challenge because we were we've been still joking about it
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was we found out we had to get an engineering so
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we have to get an engineering stamp for then a pull test for
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our fire prints we have to make sure that we have to have an engineer
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come out and test everything and we're like who does circus tense so finding
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an engineer and then we finally get this engineer who flies in he's like okay
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do you have your dynamometer and we're like you're the what the dynamometer
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like i'm like texting our product or one of our.
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Production staff, I was like, Jack, do we have a dynamometer?
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And what's a dynamometer?
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So, you know, scramble ensues.
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I do a last minute drive. We find one. It's in Redwood City.
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I run, I get the dynamometer before the shop closes, before the guy,
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the engineer who's flying back to Seattle.
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So anyways, things like that. It was just- What is a dynamometer?
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I've never heard of I'll tell you what a dynamometer is.
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It's a device that measures the force of pull.
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So what we do is we have to, what they want us, the engineer wants to see is
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to make sure that the tent, the stakes are going to really hold the weight of the tent.
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So we bring in somebody and you test that the force, the stakes can hold.
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Oh, I guess that's kind of important. So that's what a dynamometer is.
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Yeah, that's good because you want the tent to stay up when there's people in
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it. We do want it to stay up when there's people in it. I think I've heard in the news.
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This morning we had our parents' section and we faced it.
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I remember hearing in the news at some time, like circus tents collapsing in
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foreign countries on people or something like that.
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They do. I mean, there is. But that won't happen here because you have the dynamometer.
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Because we're tested. And also, you know, it's like if there's over 50 mile
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an hour winds, we are canceling the show.
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You're not going in this tent. You know, there's like, we do have all sorts
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of, you know, emergency things because we want to stay safe.
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Now, how do you balance all of the roles that you have?
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Like, are you good at delegating or do you just take everything on yourself?
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I'm terrible at delegating. So you exhaust yourself.
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But no, we have, that's not true. I have a spectacular team.
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So we have Carlo, the production manager, my right-hand man,
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and we have Jack Weinstock, who's the kind of also our kind of company artisan
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and roustabout and other kind of useful person.
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And then we have a fantastic house manager, Rhonda. So between that,
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we're in pretty good hands.
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That makes a big difference. That makes a huge difference. And I just work all the time.
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This is my kid, you know. I don't have kids. I have this circus instead. So I...
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So what's a day in the life of the circus for you? Like now,
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like for example, this morning, I got up at six.
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Okay. It was a little, it didn't sleep so well. I got up at six and then got to the lot by seven 30.
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So we could set up the chairs for our fire inspection. Yeah.
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So we did that and then we did, then we had rehearsal from 10 to one.
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So I led rehearsal from 10 to one.
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Then I had a phone call with the Girl Scouts troop because we're planning a
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Girl Scout day outing at the 10th.
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And then I'll probably be here mucking around with some boxes and some chairs
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and answering a few emails.
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We have an event. We're doing a promotional event at one 11 minute tomorrow
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night. So I got to have to deal with that a little bit and think about what
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I'm going to say as a ringmaster for that. And then, oh, and then I'm going
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to drive to San Bruno somewhere.
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I'm going to eat and I might have a cup of coffee that I'm going to eat.
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And then I'm going to drive to San Bruno and I'm speaking in front of,
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of, of arts, a community board in San Bruno, because we're going to bring the
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summer show to San Bruno next year and tell that we're okay.
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And then on the way home, I'm going to pick up some costumes for tomorrow's rehearsal.
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Oh my gosh. So that's, that's today. And then it's just like day after day like
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that. Something will happen. But I'll eat and drink coffee.
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And while I'm in the car, I practice my lines and I'm singing in the car.
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So on the way to San Bruno, I'll be singing, running through my vocal warm-ups
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and practicing my songs.
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Wow. I love it. That's my day. Gosh.
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And then I'll take a very hot bath and boil it myself like a lobster and then do it all tomorrow.
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It's wonderful. Well, you must love it to be able to do that every day.
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Oh, it's super. And it's not, this is, we're under extreme.
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It's not, it's not, this is, this is as busy as it gets. Like this week is bonkers.
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The little trip to San, unexpected trip to San Bruno. I was like, really? Okay.
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Yeah. I mean, you have to say, because they're going to give us some money to
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do the show, but I was like, could we not have picked a better day?
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But okay. In the middle of traffic.
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Oh, it's awful. Well, luckily I don't have to be there until seven.
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So it'll be after traffic. Oh, that's good. That's good.
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Well, people should go on your website and look at all the stuff you have on there.
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There's a video of last year's Kaleidoscope.
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I guess it's last year. Yeah, there's a video of last year's Kaleidoscope.
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And it really gives you a good idea of how much fun it is.
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I really enjoyed it. It's just real short, but it looks like it's wonderful.
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It's really fun. It's a really nice video. You really get a feeling of what our show is about.
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And I feel like, yeah, we're just an injection of joy and sparkle.
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Yeah. Which I kind of need right now.
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So tell us again when the show is happening.
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So the show is runs December 13th through January 5th.
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And to get tickets, you could go to circusbella.org and buy your tickets there.
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And yeah, that's great. That's I think that's all you need to know.
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You should buy it tomorrow.
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We're selling tickets. Yeah, it's going to sell out. So get them sooner than later.
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Sooner than later yeah all right well thanks abigail that's awesome thank you
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thanks for the impromptu tour of the circus oh yeah that was fun yeah.
